When I started Reynholm Industries, I had just two things in my possession: a dream and 6 million pounds. Today I have a business empire the like of which the world has never seen the like of which. I hope it doesn’t sound arrogant when I say that I am the greatest man in the world!
Down days for regular maintenance is expected so thats not a big deal, its the unexpected things that bit you in the butt financially and downtime away from work.
For me, the piece of mind gained from buying a new vehicle I can trust, far outweighs the money saved from buying a used vehicle.
I can see both sides of the used/new vehicle argument. I think it depends on whether or not you need a full size van. You can’t get a full size van in the US from anyone but the big three (well, ok, there are some new boys on the block, like Nissan, and if you’ve got the dough, Mercedes). That fact alone means they’re not going to last long. finding a used one that hasn’t been abused is difficult, as well.
If you can deal with a smaller vehicle, like a Minivan, or even an xB, you’ve got more choices in finding a reliable vehicle. I bought our xB with 140k miles on it, and have put on around 65k. In that time, the car has never required an unexpected/emergency trip to the shop. Every repair has been “non critical” in the sense that we could still drive it until we could get it in to be serviced. It’s never let us down, despite the abuse of using it to haul a water tank, taking it on driveways it never should have to endure, and not being very good about maintenance.
My previous experience with owning used Japanese cars has been similar. Obviously, you have to know what you’re buying. There will be some melons from all the manufactures.
Did you use a broker on these transactions, did you advertise them your self, what was your method
I think both ways work well , if done properly . Buying used and new car. If you’re going to buy a used car, buy private party, of certified used . Don’t buy from a used car lot . If you buy from private party , do your homework . Did they do the maintenance, ask for a current smog check , and ask why are they selling ? See if the story matches .
If you’re going to buy new , don’t walk into the dealer with out doing your homework. The sticker price is not set in stone if you negotiate online or by phone with a dealer. If you walk into the dealer , they won’t knock off a penny .( I can give you move details on how to do this , just pm me) .
Once you negotiate the price , then negotiate the loan. You can also do this with out walking into the dealer. Don’t negotiate the payment , negotiate the interest rate. Come to the dealer with a online pre approval from a credit union or bank and see if they can beat it . I have had good experiences both
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Man, I’m sorry, but I respectfully disagree with about 80% of the above.
No accountability with a private seller. Even worse they have nothing to lose, reputation-wise.
And Certified Cars are certified through the dealership, through inspection.
- they actually PAY to certify their cars. (just for the actual certification, itself)
And if the car doesn’t meet the requirements right away, THEY have to fix whatever it takes to make them meet the requirements.
Via, repairs, replacement of bad parts, tires, etc…
Sticker price isn’t even in the conversation, unless it’s a limited volume/high demand car.
(Corvette, maybe… Dodge Caravan, not a chance)
If you try hard enough, you can find someone who will get you a Supplier Discount, but probably not an Employee one.
Those are pretty set in stone, so you should feel good about your purchase price at that point.
Financing vs Rebates are something to consider.
A lot of companies will offer Cash Rebates which are used in lieu of of any kind of low financing.
With that you just do some math and find out which is better for you.
Meaning…
20,000 @ special 1.9% financing
vs
20,000 - $2000 cash rebate @ outside financing(your bank might be 3.5%)
= whichever works better. 
If you are going to negotiate over the phone, makes sure you are comparing apples to apples.
Phone calls come a dime/dozen at dealerships, and it shows no form of commitment,
so they may just give you a low end “Loss Leader” car as their price example.
I’d personally VISIT the dealership, find a car [B]you like good enough to own[/B], and go from there.
- write the vin number down, and comparison shop THAT VIN at another dealer, if you feel like you could get a better price.
(it’s nothing for dealerships to pull up a VIN number, to see what exact options are on it. Shit, if they are smart enough, they can dealer trade the exact vehicle)
Get to know your salesperson, remember their name… form a relationship with them.
DO NOT CALL MULTIPLE SALESPEOPLE AT THE SAME DEALERSHIP.
- these people spend all day together, they talk… you will become “that asshole” and nobody will do shit for you.
Really, you should look at is the same way we present our own business…[B]
- Who makes you feel that your business matter most to them?
- Are they going to be there for you if/when you have a problem?
- Are they offering superior service to the others?[/B]
J , it no big deal . I’m just posting my experience with buying new cars and I’m trying to be helpful so people won’t get screwed at the dealer ship . Maybe things work different by state, I don’t know . But here in this area , I would never buy a car from a car dealer sales man . I only work with the Internet sales director . You can call any major car dealer ask for him and tell him . Hey I’m looking to get internet price on a ( you give them the model , what upgrades and color ) then he’ll give your the lowest price , if you wait till end of the month you might get invoice price . I’ve done this the last 2 cars I purchased and for many friends and family .
Here’s a screen shot of an email from Toyota . I always get the price quoted by email . I was helping a friend buy a 4runner. I had him apply for 2 car loans online and walked in to dealer . Toyota gave him a better interest rate , and we walked out in 1 hr with the car.
Car dealers ships are very hard to understand . I have had many clients and past coworkers relatives give me the ins and outs .
If you want to try it , just call a major dealer and ask for the internet sales director and tell him the car you want . He’ll tell your his best price and compare it to the sticker price . I think on edmunds , you can find out what the dealer got the car for . Hope this info helps someone . Just trying to be helpful 
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I’ll visit the dealership because I know what I want and the price I’m going to pay, and we’re going to have to talk about their window cleaning needs.
If they don’t need a window cleaner, on to the next one. If I can’t get a good solid customer out of the deal, I’m going to go with whoever is cheapest and if that means driving to phoenix, then it’s all good.
I’m not sure if threatening to drive to Phoenix is going to help you get what you want, in life.
Humm, is that how you read my post? That I’m just a bulldog who has to get his way? That’s not who I am. But I do business with people who do business with me. I’m very loyal like that.
I guess I’m just old fashioned. I’ll listen to your sales pitch and I expect you to listen to mine. If I’m cleaning your car dealership, I’ll pay extra on a vehicle because you support me and I support you. If you could give a crap about my business, then I don’t really want to do business with you. If you want the lowest priced window cleaner, then I want the lowest price vehicle.
But if you’ve been out cold calling, then you know who the jerks are. The key is to be polite to everyone because you never know if that jerk is going to turn out to be a good customer.
Plus when it comes to car shopping you’ve got a lot of pull when it comes to bidding the dealership because they want to make a sale. In addition, if I have problems with that vehicle, it’s going to be easier to get it dealt with if we have a relationship.
My last 5 Vehicles were bought from a car dealership weather new or used. I have always bought used 3 years off lease certified with a good warranty. I’m with Jc soft wash. Buying new is peace of mind an worth the money you lose once you drive off That lot nothing like driving that car home an ya have that smell of a new car .
I will say though that doesn’t mean it won’t break down. I was driving to work I’m my brand new Van two blocks away from leaving I here a loud winey sound ,an I had no power
Lost the day, an the next day also. It turned out to be the intake manifold . So go figure.
Nothing wrong with buy used yes you save the depreciation which is nice, but I would never buy used unless it was from the dealer an certified . Jmo
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thats my point, lost time sucks bad enough, it happened and the warranty covered it, nothing out of pocket for you. And the odds of it happening on a new vehicle are extremely low, but it does happen
[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial]Hello Joshua, when I sold my business in the suburbs of Chicago it was before Facebook and Craigslist. I posted my business on a window cleaning website. I can’t remember the name of it. When I purchased the business in Arizona, that was approximately 2004, I found it in the newspaper. Your best bet these days is Craigslist for sure. Constantly check that and also call some business brokers. Also try sending emails to all the businesses in your area. Try doing a Google search, window cleaning business for sale and your city.[/FONT][/COLOR]
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[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial]Hello, I recently started posting on this great website and I came across a post of yours about home advisor. I was thinking about giving it a shot out in Phoenix and I saw a post of yours that you mentioned if I use you as a referral we both get free lead money. I was checking to see if I can use you as a referral so we both can get leads. Even if I can only get you leads I would still use you as a referral. I am always willing to help a fellow window cleaner, entrepreneur, business owner. Thanks for your time. [/FONT][/COLOR]
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[MENTION=6077]Steve Belcastro[/MENTION] are you freaking kidding
In the interest of restraint of tongue and then I retract the previous statementbut you can’t sell a business on craigslist. Craigslist is a cesspool
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Yeah man, hook it up. Pm me, I’ll have my rep contact you.
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Depends on where you’re at… and what you’re looking for. Just like the internet.
But bizbuysell.com and other business broker websites list all sorts of businesses for sale.
Craigslist is free you get what you pay for theres but douche bags on their. None of them have any money
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