Plagiarism!

OK, I think we are getting someplace.

My ideas (web site) are out there to bring me business, to put food on my table, NOT for you or anyone else to steal just because you can see it. Some of the information has been paid for, by me, for my use. Just because you can see it does NOT give you the right to take it.

You should offer to sell it to him, and then come up with a better flyer a week later, If he does not want to buy it, then threaten the law suit. It would make me smile to know that a competitor of mine is making me $$$.

Anyone can copy your ideas. They cannot copy your content.
If I copy the structure of your website and put my own content in it, there isn’t anything you could do about it
as far as I know.

It’s the “new” Obama Socialist Agenda Attitude! What yours is mine!

Ive had many guys in my area copy word for word. First give them a call. It usually will be enough.

redistribute the wealth, MY WEALTH!

I paid for the structure to be a certain way, I own it, its mine. Even if I didnt pay for it, it is my creation and I own it.

Without a signed release, my ideas are also belong to me. I have worked at international companies and had to sign forms stating that any of my ideas related to the business in any way shape or form, belonged to the company and I would not receive compensation for my ideas. By signing I was giving up ownership.

An idea that comes about while you are working for a company is a different kind of thing. You signed
an agreement with them and that is between you and them.

The structure of your website, in relationship to others looking at it, does not fall into that category. They can look at it and take whatever ideas they can get from it as far as I know. What they cannot do is to steal your actual content.

You paid someone for the development of the structure. You did not pay a person looking at your site and you have no agreement with them.

That does not give them permission to take what I own.

What is up with this “entitlement” mind set, I dont get???

I don’t like the entitlement mind set either.

You don’t like someone copying your website. That
is a moral question. The rest is a legal matter.

People who have no idea what they are doing are often just looking for
someone to copy.

If you are doing well, they want to look at your paper and copy it.
They want a free ride.

This stuff sucks… found two different sites today copying content from me word for word with only name changed. Both companies in SC too.

Lots of talk here about plagiarism lately.
What’s most surprising to me is… that it’s [U]at[/U] [U]all[/U] surprising to any of you.

We jump over each other to give advice to anyone who asks how to succeed.

  • “Green lighting” them to steal ideas.

Starter kits- “how to” DVD’s- SEO advice- marketing advice, peer consultation in real time…

[INDENT]Anyone who [U]ISN’T[/U] succeeding should take a serious look into ditch digging.
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I paid $10 bucks for someone clicking my ad, searching for “[I]window cleaning [U]res[B]or[/B]se[/U] [B][U]2[/U][/B]com[/I]” the other day.

  • that means some dupe here couldn’t even spell the name right.

There are only a hand full of Michigander’s here, so in a sense… “I know it was you, Frodo.” :rolleyes:

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I think I understand Merv’s reasoning. Obviously content copying is plagiarism. I think there is a measure of acceptableness in liking the general layout, colors, or positioning of tabs and so on and using them as a springboard. When things are just reworded a little differently or laid out just a tiny bit differently, that seems real cheap.

BTW Merv, I liked your “countersignature” you had up not long ago.

I know they want a free ride and I am here to say dont even think about it, not on my dime!!

Tell ya what, you get a web site put together the way you want it, pay someone to do it (~1K), pay them intermittently to keep up with SEO, new B/A pics, etc… and then find out someone stole everything YOU paid for. I think then you will understand what I am talking about. Whether its one sentence, one paragraph or the entire site, IT IS YOURS.

On the other hand, if you dont mind someone stealing your stuff, I can give you the names of a few different site builders/SEO guys to build your site for the rest of us to “borrow”

Is it okay ith you if I copy this and add it to my notes on legal matters?[quote=“Seth, post:17, topic:11838”]
Copyrights
a. Lifetime of the author plus 70 years
b. Protection begins when work is created
i. File with a government presumption of 1st creation, and for notice for damages protection. - best way of proof…
ii. Different from plagiarism
Plagiarism – using material without credit
Copyright – giving credit doesn’t make infringement ok.
c. Standards for copyrights
i. Must be original, but need not be innovated
ii. You cannot copyright facts of ideas, only their expression

  1. It is the creativity expression that is protected.
    d. Copyrights come with the right to make derivative works
    i. Copy of piece of art.
    ii. Movie out of book.
    e. Fair use doctrine
    i. Limited copying is allowed for research, news reporting and educational purpose
    ii. VCR copy for home use is a fair use
    iii. Parody
    Test for infringement by parody
    a. Commercial use
    i. Must look at other things
    b. Does the parody use heart of copyrighted work.
    c. Is the copying extensive
    d. Are they damage to market of the original work.
    f. ASCAP (association of composer Authorities of Publishers)
    [/quote]
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You may copy the idea, not the content :japanese_ogre: