Preparing for another economic hit

Some interesting perspectives. A few things I think that are important to keep in mind. The first thing is we have never been in the position we are faced with before in history. It is not just the US that is in trouble, but most markets are proper up by credit. Also the 2008 crash was not the bottom of the market. It was simply a tremor to what we will soon face. I don’t mean that in a dooms day mentality. It doesn’t mean the end of man. It does mean that we will see conditions we haven’t seen before and 2008 is in no way a representation of what we will see. We never recovered from 2008. They have just been manipulating the markets. Their is not one market right now that is not manipulated to keep this house of cards up, which means when it goes the whole thing will likely come down, or we will experience major set back after major setback as different markets are corrected.

One of the main instabilies that main instabilities that affects the US is the Petro dollar. Of the Saudi’s begin to sell oil in another currency or sell off their like reserves to China the Petri dollar goes away and the value of the US dollar drops by a third instantly.

Although I agree that there is money to be made in a bottom market, not everyone is in the same place and those in a position to win will be fewer the more destruction we face. Yes a lot of our customers are wealthy but the wealthy need the middle class to support their wealth. They need people spending money and need a moving economy in order to turn assets into wealth. A 3 million dollar home is only worth 3 million dollars of someone is willing to pay 3 million for it. A severe enough collapse will effect the wealthy as well as the rich.

To be clear the point of the post was not to be a hopeless prespective or to be negative. The point was to be honest about what we very well could face and to be wise in preparation. Yes it doesn’t do any good to worry about what might happen, but it does do some good to prepare for what could be a strong possablity so that you can weather the storm. Most homes in the midwest have a tornado cellar for a reason, yet how many will ever be hit by one.

For me I built up my business slowly over many years by doing any job that came my way. A lot of my clients aren’t super rich. They are simply wise with their money and have some to spend. Because they are wise they often cut spending on things like window cleaning when things get tight. Over the last couple of years I have focused my attention on the larger more affluent homes and have built a good reputation among those circles. In not sure it would be enough to keep me going full time in a major financial crisis. I figure at the very least I may be ably to maintain an on going part time customer base and at the very least supliment any other income. I have tried over the last couple of years to get in a better personal position and although I have made progress it has been much slower than I would have like to see.

I often try to think about what things might look like so I can prepare, but there is just no way to know. I have wondered if window cleaning is a viable business in other countries that are much poorer than ours. Maybe that would give some indication as to what we could expect if we experience some major challenges.

Either way my trust is in God to provide but even God calls us to use wisdom.

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agree with whatapane…i’m a believer…Gods wisdom is best…prepare…it will be worse than we relize…could say more…

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If it really gets bad, I got a nice water filtration system for me, and to sell/trade filtered water. Cant live w/o water :wink:

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What insiders do you listen to?

I’m very impressed with the way this thread has gone. I’ve had this talk with a lot of people that blow it off, and for good reason. The majority of this country has never experienced much hardship. How many of us here have? I haven’t. I’ve never been hungry (gone multiple days without food), never had to beg or stand in a bread line. Scary for me was when my credit card wouldn’t swipe at the gas pump. That made me realize how much I depended on my card, the system, gas too. I grew up Christian but I don’t know if I ever really “depended” on God. Mainly before a test I guess. I’m glad that’s been brought up too.

To answer the first question, I don’t think I’ve made many changes to my business. I did pay off my van 4 years early. Although maybe I shouldn’t have. I wonder who I would make payments to if the banks failed. jk

In my personal life, I did get some freeze dried food. It’s an investment you can use anytime, especially camping. I started eating lots of vegetables, mainly because I feel so much better and have lots more energy. Many days all I’ll have is a green smoothie. (This is very much related to an economic collapse. People who use food mainly as a drug, as well as other drugs, will go crazy if they don’t get their fix. It’s also a great way to save money.) I’m trying to grow vegetables too. With the flexibility of my job, I’d like to have something productive to do. Homesteading is still a dream but that’s the fun part, right.

If I had more resources, I’d buy a house on some land, or maybe I’d get a tiny house, or make a cob house, have a well, rain collection (also used to make pure water), more gardening, more tools…

But what do I know, I’m just a window cleaner, and what does Jesus know, he was just a carpenter

“Here’s the lesson: Use your worldly resources to benefit others and make friends. Then, when your earthly possessions are gone, they will welcome you to an eternal home.”

Money isn’t eternal, friends are. That said, I pray my business would help others in need of a job, or just in need of help.

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I listen to Trunews allot. They have a lot of different inside guys as guests on the show. It cn be hard to tell sometimes if the person knows their stuffbut mlstof them seem to be pretty knowledgeable and allot of them seem to be saying the same thing which is a big crash/drop this hear late summer early fall. A lot of talk also about the US dollar/petro dollar.

I’m not a conspiracy guy and my trust is in Christ to provide for me. It does seem like we will see another big hit coming up and it will bemuch worse than the last one. We never even recovered from the last hit. They just duck taped it and people are acting like, “yah that’s good. Lets roll!” and they act like were fine. Its kinda of crazy to me the level of normalsy bias people have. Its like the titanic sinking and they are all inside having cocktails.

I’m not claiming to know what’s going to happen but people should be more concerned than what they are. The rest of the world China, Russia etc. Have been buying up gold and silver left and right and were like nah its all good. Meanwhile the fed is keeping intrest rates low and the good and sikver markets are being manipulated to keep the pricelow so there is not a mass exodus from the US dollar. They can’t hold the price forever and they have been forced to admit manipulating the market like last week. This means the gig is up.

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:sunglasses:

word.

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Who b this?

Who?

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WHO controls the narrative.

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Who’s on first?

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The guy was right and should hunker down for another 5 years.
This is a scary time. I’ve been following several investors and market watchers. The trends are not good for almost every metric. There are those that are aligning that have historically not occurred together but individually are bad and cause for recession concerns but cumulatively may be devastating.
We, USA, are in a much better position, relative the rest of the world. Don’t think that the housing and mortgage and banking concerns around the world will not ultimately ripple through our system. 50-80% inflation in other parts of the world!

Are you saying the OP was right? His insiders called for a “big hit” late summer/early fall in 2016. If you listened to him you would have missed out on quite the bull market from 2016-2020.

another ancient time capsule, looking at these posts thru the lens of 2022 its like what was all the fuss about lol! things were great the next 6 years in a row!

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This.

Yeah, the world is kinda messy right now, but it’s always been and always will be.

The difference is now we have the internet blaring it in everyone’s face 24/7/365. Its easy to get sucked into everyone’s hot takes and believe what you want to. You can literally Google anything and find someone that agrees with your viewpoint. Media literally makes it’s money by force feeding you bad news. As humans we have an innate need to watch tragedy from a good safe distance.

I’ve been hearing about Russia threatening to nuke us since I was born. Its an actual drinking game now. Democrats have been “coming to take our guns away” for just as long. Republicans are only getting their way on some issues now because of a stacked SCOTUS, but there’s still only a few measures they are going to be able to pass because the entirety of Congress is useless and self sabotaging. Gas goes up and down every few years… my personal opinion is that its a scheduled cash grab, brought to you by your friends at OPEC+. Covid? Well we were long overdue for a pandemic, and now our glorious mass media has moved onto Monkey Pox. Food prices go up, and then they go down.

Here we are also thinking that POTUS controls all of this as well. You give them too much credit, they are just figureheads. Whether you support the illiterate sociopath or the ineffective octogenarian, they are both out of touch with reality. All they can do is meet with other leaders and give the thumbs up to bomb them when they don’t agree. The obstructionism (on both sides, regardless of who is in control) involved with getting anything helpful and meaningful done in this country for the past twenty years is absurd.

Russia - Its only a matter of time before they collapse.
China - Their banking system is actively collapsing
Middle East - Will always be a shitstorm
North Korea - Knows their country will be reduced to a mushroom cloud if they try anything.

Stop believing the hype. Step away from CNN/FOX etc. Drop the social media. Humans are adaptive creatures, so, adapt. Not a one of us here is a hedge fund manager, state leader or CEO, so our lives are merely going to be inconvenienced temporarily. Money will come and go. If you let yourself fall into being consumed by so-called “information”, you are going to have a long and arduous life.

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I think many of them knew a hit was coming but timed it wrong. a HIT is always coming… Just have to time it right for different reasons.

Growth opportunities will be incredible for a small group of people, usually the rich but smart folks still win, in the coming months and years. AS many have said, always keep debt in its’ right place, market current, and CHOOSE TO BE HAPPY! Our brains are weak and we have the power to dictate how we see the world.

You’re spot on. I read a bunch, quit listening to the hype and completely left social media and TV 30 months ago. I brought this up many because people usually only listen to those that are their reflection. Any day and moment is a boom or bust depending on our actions.
I like how you described the POTUS. They have a branch, not the whole freaking tree. And the branches of government are run by the stem and roots and few folks understand who/what entities those are, I don’t. Those countries you listed will affect us but if you’re in a good place you’re going to be fine.
Choose to be HAPPY

My only disagreement with your logic…almost everyone here is a CEO. :wink:

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Ah, we use the terms “CEO” so loosely nowadays.

CEOs are typically employees of a company and answer to either the owners or a board.

I guess, to me it’s more of a mindset…

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