Quality of WFP method vs. "Traditional" methods

in my opinion wfp’s do not do as good as using a stripwasher and a squeegee

I have been using a wfp for over 2 years now with average results. Most of the time i do every job by hand.

most times when i use my WFP it is only on jobs that are one time deals.

I dont care what all of these wfp experts are saying how great they are etc.

I know what works and what doesnt work.

ohh and btw, water fed poles do not cut your job in 1/2.

they take longer or the same amount of time.

I have timed myself on a lot of jobs. the end result… spots,spots.spots

just keep this in mind before you buy a wfp system.

Now that i look back, i wish i never bought a system.

should you have any other questions about wfp’s

feel free to contact me

If you had used GG4 before wfping, you would have noted a whole different finish on the windows. It doesn’t leave the film that dish soap does.

sounds like it’s your problem, not the WFP.

Well try a wfp Doug

why would i use gg4 before using a wfp???

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Well try a wfp Doug[/QUOTE]
I’m sure thelegendofdoug stated that it sounds like operator error due he’s read so many rave reviews about superior results from a large number of WFP users.

I’ve had issues w/ wfp work in the past and it usually is operator error, ie not a good enough scrub or rinse. A few times I’ve run into glass that doesn’t sheet well when rinsed. I have since learned that a longer rinse after a more vigorous scrub will take care of that problem. One other problem is on windy days near dusty streets. The wind deposits dirt onto the glass before it dries. After some practice you’ll find that wfp work is a great money maker and time saver (once you have enough experience).

Larry you are correct, that is what I meant. also, “Operator error” sounds alot better than “your problem” =)

and other Doug, I’ve used a wfp a few times, The results were wonderful, and the ONLY reason I have not invested in a setup yet is because I don’t have enough accounts that are ideal for WFP (yet) to justify the cost.

You make another excellent point. Not every job is ideal for WFP. I do alot of storm window jobs and they really are not suitable for WFP. I do find myself looking at taller buildings thinking to myself how much money I can make using my pure water setup on them. Before that I’d think - man I’d hate to have to ladder (or get a lift) that one.

Go back to the start of the thread.

  1. yup.
  2. dunno, they did it.
  3. okay, can’t remember if they did or not
  4. not sure what brushes they used

As I’ve mentioned before - I’ve never had spots on windows after using GG4. You can even pre scrub with a porcupine & then wfp. It saves coming back or doing twice. Wfp is a “learning curve” process - hence the bad reports or customers saying “you’re not using one of those pole thingys are you?”
Most users in the UK tell their clients that it will take around 3 cleans to get the windows suitable for wfp. I don’t have that luxury & I’m sure many others in the US don’t. There a lot of factors why wfp’s “don’t work” - its just having the experience to know what to do in different situations. That’s why I tell people to pre-scrub first & wfp while the windows are wet - it just saves me explaining different ways for every different situation.
If the job is done by hand the first time rarely will you have to squeegee again. I can cut time down to a third of what it takes to squeegee on certain jobs.
This is how quick it can be:
http://robinson-solutions.blogspot.com/2008/06/painter-poles-become-water-fed-poles.html

That clampless pole is a marvel! Is the height measured from the ground? Does he ship to the US? It would perfect for my monthly house route.

I’d love to see WCR carry this clampless pole. What do you think guys?

Its a home made pole not one that is purchased off the shelf. Peter of Aquatech in Scotland came out with the idea & is copied in the “throw-up” pole that you see (painters pole). Its simply a case of utilising the hose to hold the sections up. Peter has been flooded out of home & office - we’ve had no word of when he will be supplying again.