Ammonia or vinegar?

I know some window cleaners use vinegar in their window cleaning solutions. We have never used vinegar in our window cleaning solution.

On the ph scale vinegar is a mild acid and ammonia is a mild base (opposite of acid). Possibly either will work, but ammonia is our choice to improving the cleaning abilities of our solution. I feel it also improves the viscosity of the solution adding ‘slip’.

We also put ammonia in the solution to help cut the oil.

So what do you say? Ammonia or vinegar?

Neither. I use GG4 with a squirt of dish soap and I’m good to go. For glass covered in nicotine I use Unger’s ‘The Pill.’

Neither… Ammonia is caustic, and vinegar will etch stone and metal ! TSP has way lot of slip and is the best grease cutter there is ! Try it…I bet you get hooked if what your using is what you’ve posted.

2 to 3 table-spoons in 2 to 3 gallons of warm water and that’s all you’d need to cut the crud…That’s coming from the " SONS OF ETTORE " !

Dange / pushing the RANGE

Rob, I LOVE ammonia. It’s my all-time favorite cleaner for windows, but I stopped using it after reading how dangerous it is to human lungs and window seals. Sigh.

2 Gallon of Ammonia and a dash of dawn and you will be set. Customers always tell us how great their house smells after we leave.

ill use a small amt of ammonia with my soap solution if windows are especially dirty, great on fingerprints in restaurants, ive never used vinegar.

So MR. Sim…

Dange here with my first discourse with you…I hope you respond !

Are you saying 2 gallons of Ammonia “ONLY”, with no water ? If thats the case your going to blow your liver out and or your bladder and kidneys also mentioning your lungs will go fluid on you, … !

Ammonia is toxic and or caustic and when you use that much well, I must say, just give it some thought ! Have you ever tried TSP ? I certain it isn’t caustic and it has plenty of slip and slide and it does cut thru grease and cig residue !

Come on…

Dange

I use GG4 for everyday cleaning and add a TSP boost for restaurants and residential with heavy nicotine. I use a 50/50 mixture of denatured alcohol and water on skylights and mirrors.
Vinegar doesn’t cut it for me and ammonia is nasty stuff.

Pretty sure he was just being facetious :smiley:

Are you using Phosphate free TSP or the full strength? The ph level of TSP is about the same as ammonia, so even diluting it is probably about the same as diluting ammonia, and TSP still has the same health risks involved, inhalation, skin irritant, burns.

We use “The Pill” -sodium bicarbonate, sodium carbonate, citric acid- non toxic and bio-degradable and won’t burn our skin or lungs if we spilled a box of them.

Yes, used properly they work, but why put risks in when products are available that don’t require it. There’s always a chance they could splash your eye, or in our case using an enclosed trailer, if the box spilled the particles would be airborne in an enclosed setting.

I was Just play Dange. I guess I should have added a smily face or something. :slight_smile:

I like the smell of unger’s easy glide.

and most mirror co’s say not to use amonia on mirrors it will cause the silver back to lift.

I use aerosol foam cleaners on most mirrors. Allowing most solutions to dwell at the bottom of a mirror will cause black creep.

Hey Sim-ster…

Thanks for your reply and recognition it is greatly appreciated.

Yeah I figured you were being a joke-ster. That’s why I did…

I’m just trying to figure out the load without over loading !

The Dange-ster

I didn’t even notice he said two gallons. I just assumed he said 2 tblespoons or something :wink:
Good eyes, DangerMan!

I can’t imagine the customers saying how good it smelled if he’d actually used two gallons of ammonia!!

Hey Dave, wanna join our Northwest Window Cleaner group? Jeremy and I are hoping to have a get together…

Could be fun! You can teach me how not to break my neck on ladders :wink:

Click here…
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I’ve used in spray bottle a mixture of ammonia & white vinegar, but have lost the recipe for the ratio. anyone help? And wiping with newspapers works fine!