As with any products there will be perceived advantages and disadvantages with both. It is good that there is an increased choice as it gives the end user a better chance of choosing a product which matches their own priorities (weight, length, diameter, price, etc.).
It is worth remembering that the downside of reduced diameter on the lower sections of a 40ft plus pole is a reduction in rigidity on the very sections that take the most strain whilst working at these heights. In the video above the section being compared to the n-Lite is an Xtreme modular extension section which is only used on the very largest of these Xtreme poles once they have got over 50ft. At these heights rigidity on the lower sections is very important. Using carbon fibre material the formula is (approximately) that for every 5mm (0.19") you increase a tubes diameter the rigidity increases by 100%.
The downside of keeping the diameter of the sections the same as you increase the length of the pole (as in the n-Lite) is that you gradually reduce the rigidity of the pole when you need it the most (50ft+).
An advantage of increasing the section diameter as you add extension modules is that you keep all sections fully telescopic and do not have to worry about external pole hose and adding removing modules whilst working - This applies up to 44ft/47ft on the Xtreme poles.
[COLOR=#006400][SIZE=3]Well, Well, Alex-O…It looks and sounds from your post-esto your having to deal with some serious competition-E-O ! Pretty much in the fast lane Eh …Reach It , n-lite , Ms.Tucker…
If Tucker ever gets it in their head to re-develop their product with carbon fiber your going to have even worse problems in having to deal with a competitor, because they are the first to design the WFP and when they apply the knowledge of what works, they’ll come up with the best and cheapest costing WFP in the world…They’re just being stubborn, but eventually they will, must, start a new design…
My hearts desire !!!
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As a consumer I appreciate having these reviews. When you take it as a reason or opportunity to defend your product, that makes me as a consumer suspicious of your intentions. I will be be hesitant now to purchase your product. I don’t think John intended to attack your company, just telling the virtues of the Unger pole. I have heard great things about your product as well Alex. It’s all about choices.
My posting the above comparison was not defensive but was in response to Rob T
who wanted a point by point comparison of the n-Lite to the Xtreme poles. I thought that this is what I had replied with. I had up to this point never commented any any forum about the n_Lite poles or the n-Lite range. This was a technical comparison and not a sales comparison as the Xtreme25, 35 and 44 are not poles that are even on sale in the US market. Only the much larger Xtreme47 is available currently in the US.
The n-Lite and the Gardiner range of poles are very, very different in their philosophy and their execution. These differences will appeal to different users - as I said originally “It is good that there is an increased choice as it gives the end user a better chance of choosing a product which matches their own priorities (weight, length, diameter, price, etc.).”
I have also been asked today on some of the UK forums to post a similar comparison chart as clients are finding it hard to compare the options on the n-Lite side-by-side with other brands of poles. Hopefully the above information will help some clients to do this.
I also do not think that John was ‘attacking’ my Company as he did not even mention the name of the section he was comparing it to. I thought it better though to mention and name what the section was and also in what context that size section is used in.
I apologise if my post has caused you some offence.
Ps. I have edited the original comparison chart as I had made a small error on 2 of the handle diameter specifications.
Phil, with respect, what’s suspicious about Alex’s intentions? He is a manufacturer, of course he’s going to promote his product. That said, John’s intentions are also to promote a particular product, ie, Unger, since he’s the new water-fed sales rep. Link below:
I thought Alex’s comments were remarkably balanced and objective. He presented useful statistics. I think the same way of John, and Unger as a company. I’m glad both these guys are here and post useful stats and videos for all of us. They are both great products, so the more I know about them, the better.
Exactly! Hey Phil, what part of Alex’s comment “As with any products there will be perceived advantages and disadvantages with both. It is good that there is an increased choice as it gives the end user a better chance of choosing a product which matches their own priorities (weight, length, diameter, price, etc.).” confused you enough to misinterpret or misunderstand his post?
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