Commercial window cleaning isn’t seasonal. It depends on what you want to do. Most people don’t like commercial, but if you have 60-80% commercial, you’ll be busy all year long. In my previous life I had 80% comemercial, 20% residential/projects. It was interesting that during housing season my commercial was still building so that the person I hired for housing season would still have work in winter.
Ehhh
Commercial = lots of low price store fronts going for volume
Large scale commercial in seasonal climates will have a pretty strong slow down.
Have some done well with that model? Absolutely but overall being diverse give more options.
I would submit that some of the most successful guys on this forum have gone away from window cleaning
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it’s all in HOW the owner will take the 150k
does he want to make it
in the field 30%?
in the office 10%
in sales and marketing at <10%
or absentee (yeah right) at the ideal 10% of revenue as profit
or a combination of some or all of the above?
that’s what it comes down to
If $105 pmh doing windows is the annual average, and the owner works in the field and does all the above @ a total of 60%
then in the 300’s with whatever additional labor tops it off
if ‘absentee’ then 1,500,000 (10% of 1.5mil = 150k)
the problem with the 1.5m mark is that middle mgmt and other things kick in, reducing the 10%, so probably more like 2mil+ for a for sure sustainable 150k
2mil = at least 14 top tier work alone in a truck full production guys doing 145k a year revenue
- all the admin, sales and managers on top of that that are non producing
a lot depends on job size and geography, that’s why most large co’s end up in metropolitan areas doing hi rise jobs in the 1,000’s or 10,000’s, much less admin and larger chunks to keep people busy with
my observations anyway
[MENTION=6741]wcs[/MENTION]
it’s all in HOW the owner will take the 150k
does he want to make it
in the field 30%?
in the office 10%
in sales and marketing at <10%
or absentee (yeah right) at the ideal 10% of revenue as profit
or a combination of some or all of the above?
that’s what it comes down to
If $105 pmh doing windows is the annual average, and the owner works in the field and does all the above @ a total of 60%
then in the 300’s with whatever additional labor tops it off
if ‘absentee’ then 1,500,000 (10% of 1.5mil = 150k)
the problem with the 1.5m mark is that middle mgmt and other things kick in, reducing the 10%, so probably more like 2mil+ for a for sure sustainable 150k
2mil = at least 14 top tier work alone in a truck full production guys doing 145k a year revenue
- all the admin, sales and managers on top of that that are non producing
a lot depends on job size and geography, that’s why most large co’s end up in metropolitan areas doing hi rise jobs in the 1,000’s or 10,000’s, much less admin and larger chunks to keep people busy with
my observations anyway
Thanks for your input Bruce as always very insightful.
Yeah its definitely more work, but it keeps you and your guys busy all year. If i wanted to be a one man show, I’d only do residential. But i want to build a crew where i don’t HAVE to do the actual cleaning… Commercial is good for that.
I would submit that some of the most successful guys on this forum have gone away from window cleaning
WCR
Responsibid
street bidder
And my contribution a couple years ago to Aztec innovations
I wouldn’t classify myself in their league. The washer is more a labor of love for me and it allows me to buy equipment. My plan is to make money with window cleaning.
Unless i come up with That One Tool everybody needs and wants to buy 10 of…
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It depends on your system and your area.
But if you can get your system to profit you 25% (which isn’t bad but 30 is my target) then you’re looking at a 600k gross which is not undoable. I’ve got franchise friends who easily do that. Some in small markets. In some franchise systems you don’t even begin to take home a salary until you hit 250k and you don’t take home a good salary until you’re at 500k. And that’s with 10-12% going off the top to the franchisor. And their system is 80% commercial, 20% residential.
My goal is to build this up to where I’m doing 20hr work weeks and if I happen to hit 90-100k then I’m cool with that.
