COVID-19/Corona Virus

I just had a client email requesting a later clean date so they can: “self distance until this virus thing calms down.”

With “self distancing” being one of the ‘authority’ recommended actions right now, I think this could come up more.

People are only going to behave this way for about another week or two. After that people are going to realize they have to go to work and move on with life, virus or no virus. It will all calm down once the kids get back to school(mine are out for a week) and some of the sports get back on track. I knew people were going to lose it once all the leagues started cancelling. Self distancing, staying at home, working from home and then no sports to boot. You knew it was going to hit the fan.

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Less politics. More facts.

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Just a side note here…as many of you know I live in Mexico and cross the border to work in the US.

The screening for covid is a joke! They look down your throat (for what I don’t know) and take your temperature and tell you to go home. I’m dead serious!
Everyone here for the most part thinks its not real. They are laughing at the empty shelves in the states…well I’m not laughing, kinda pissed about that-
In fact I really think that if people just got what they needed there would be plenty for everyone! Unreal.

The point I’m making is that its going to be a nightmare down here and it will be in the next few weeks.

They are not closing schools down until next week, while I’ve had my stir crazy kid home for the last 3 weeks. I don’t understand what go’s thru people’s head sometimes. I really don’t give a rip if he misses a grade - thats the threat to me from the school…I did invite the school to pucker up and show some love to my back side.

Whats being reported from some countries is well under what the reality is.

I am not a scientist or a medical doctor, just a window cleaner reading a lot about this. Do not underestimate the impact it will have. In itself, it is not a bad disease. The issue is that it is new and as such no vaccine exist and as a population we have no anitbodies in our bodies to fight it off. Yes, for most it will be a bad cold or even flu-like. Here is the real problem -
In a normal year, a significant amount of the population gets a flu shot (vaccine) that covers all known flu strains along with some modified strains to anticipate flu mutations. This protects a large % of the population especially those who are older or with underlying medical conditions. As a result a very small % of the population develops sickness that requires hospitalization. Now Covid-19. No vaccine. This is going to result in large numbers of people getting ill to the point that hospitalization is required. It will over-run our countries medical ability. You only need to look to Italy, China and other places to see the reality of what is happening. Doctors having to decied who gets life saving treatment and who will have to suffer with a high probability they will die.
It is not a sickness that will affect millions and millions. It is a sickness that will affect enough of the population that we can not take care of it. As such, everything being done is merely preventive measures to try and reduce the total number of cases. It will last more than a week or two.
I have lost over $10K a month in income in the last 48 hours (I do pressure washing - all my restaurant accounts have suspended service, a baseball stadium job has suspended service, efforts to lock in residential window jobs is met with housewives not wanting me in their home due to “social distancing”). To put it blunt - I am screwed. I got this months and next bills covered but beyond that who knows. Perhaps deplete 401K and savings, rack up credit debt, etc.

If what has happened in every country/area since this started, we are only at the beginning of some tough times. China, Korea, Italy, France and others have found the only way to get a handle is complete lockdown.

I am not a fear mongering type, but do understand the pattern in every country before us and ask “What are we doing different than them at the same point of this spread”? The answer - very little. You will see the infected numbers dramatically increase over the next 7-14 days with deaths increasing as well. That is when people will really freak out. If you think it is bad now, just wait. Again, look at the reports coming out of Italy today.

Bottom line - this will not be going anywhere for 2-3 months. China is just now getting handle on it and they are on month 4.

Again, not a scientist or doctor, just reading a lot of reports, articles and listening to the scientist and doctors (NOT the politicians that do not know crap).

Make up your own mind.

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The crappiest thing about this, is that since it’s people over 60 who have the hardest time with this, now we have to lock everything down and go crazy. What’s the average age of politicians in this country? Probably 60+. So now it’s a crisis. Because it is a problem for them, now we have to lock every one down, close business, act like idiots and everything else. If this was another HIV epidemic, the politicians wouldn’t give 2 sh**s about it. Why? Because they can’t be bothered with actually helping their constituents.

They keep using the excuse that young people who are largely unaffected by the virus could be carriers to older people. I think we know how to not go near our elderly friends and relatives for something like this. You don’t grind the gears on EVERYTHING, not just the economy, to a halt. The vast majority of cases have been people under 50 that had such mild symptoms they never bothered getting assistance.

The message should have been for older people to socially distance themselves, all of us wash our hands constantly (which we should do anyways), stay the F home if you’re sick, and wipe down surfaces (again, which we should do anyways).

That’s just my 2 cents

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My feelings exactly.
The reality is there isn’t a need to speculate if it’s real/fake/bad/horrible/safe/dangerous. You can do a Google search for how this has already played out in other countries, extrapolate and formulate a solid postulation of it’s reality and progression here.

Albeit political rhetoric in mainstream news does cloud the facts more times than not; but when entire countries go on lockdown, ICU’s are overloaded to the point of Drs deciding who lives or dies, and entire nations have their economy grenaded?

IMHO, it’s a good bet there’s fire under that smoke.
This could very well be a bumpy spring.

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Here’s a little news to add to the fire for ya. Just found out today an acquaintance of mine just got activated for the national guard.
He said some things that I believe are his own opinion so I won’t mention that because I don’t believe he really knows what his orders are until he gets to where he’s supposed to go. Just the fact he was activated is kind of a big deal to me.

this was pretty interesting

start at 1:41 for the couple minute video (the whole thing is 10min with a bunch of other stuff), it’s a couple weeks out of date but the pattern is there vs other viruses

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Washington state shut down all schools and colleges for the next 6 weeks, along with all “non essential” places of business for 2 weeks I believe

Yes a region of North Seattle shut down schools awhile ago, for 6 weeks.

Then other states did things then State wide schools shut down.

We are not shut down like CA and others but I do not see how they don’t as they are followers and weak.

Bruce, I always appreciate your posts. Yes, COVID-19 has a much lower mortality rate than other things. However, it is very contagious. So, if unchecked, that number is going to be a small percentage of a very large population.

Worse yet, as we’re beginning to hear in the US, the hospitalization/ICU rate is 5-10%. That is a still a relatively small percent, but we are talking about a highly contagious disease. So, again, 5-10% of a high population. If left unchecked, COVID-19 will exceed our supply of critical care in the US. I know this is hard to imagine, but there is a supply limit to critical care that can be provided. It is not infinite.

And that is the reason we have to control the spread. Because once our healthcare systems is over-burdened, it could have a domino effect on people who are sick for other reasons.

I’m sorry I didn’t check in weeks ago to discuss as I know you are a true numbers guy.

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Gents, we are in very trying times right now, show her you care.
gents

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No offense Endless, but the author is trafficking in fear. It’s his angle and is based on his personal agendas, imo. There are always people behind the scenes that look to profit politically from the success or failure of others during situations like this. With people so divided, the media so biased from both sides, as well the distorted magnification of social media it’s hard to feel comfortable with anything we read.

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The last 1-3 weeks I saw this coming, was panicking, thinking I got it. Btw I got sick from cleaning chemicals not corona. But yeah the less news you watch the better your mental health is. I still avoid everyone like the plague though.

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None taken.:ok_hand:t3: It does carry a bit more of an angle than I’d usually prefer.:thinking:
On a different note, doctor’s are considering retro fitting ventilators to be used on up to 4 people at one time; kind of neat.

https://news.yahoo.com/other-option-death-york-starts-122349644.html

Even the WHO gives the advice to only check status at best twice a day. I’m with you on that one man.