does anyone use gg4 and gg glide? i like a lot of slip and want to try gg4 and no i will not add dawn. i am moving away from any dish soap.
I use gg3. Like it.
But I don’t think the purpose with it is to replace your soap. It’s more to boost your solution.
I like the fact it has less suds but there are times I need a little suds so I can better see where I’ve been and where I’m going. For those times, I still add a drop or two of dawn to my strip washer. The glide seems similar to dawn to me, but when breaking in a new Ettore rubber, I can’t fan with straight gg4. Not sure if that is a function of gg4, or the semi-common issue I have had and have read others have had with new ettore rubber being real grabby right out of the box.
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@JonathanB no, i have had extensive conversations with titan and adding soap defeats the entire purpose of gg4 or gg3.
gg3/4 clean in entirely different ways than surfactants and suds.
@Davis this is why i am wondering about the gg gleam because it is compatible withh gg3/4
once broken in, I have no problem fanning with gg4 mixed at their recommend ratio of 1/4 oz per gallon. I just seem to have a hard time with new ettore rubber being too sticky. I put a new rubber in my excelerator yesterday and when I hit an upper store front window with it, it literally would not move. Put a wagtail on with a broken-in ettore rubber and it fanned perfectly. Hopefully someone has used that glide and chimes in.
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thanks i’m gonna go for it.
That’s interesting info man! I have got wrong info from others.
On Monday I will just go for gg3 in the bucket.
it’s very common on here for people to say “ya i just add some dawn” but the science is different also i asked if other slip agents would work and he told me most of them are simply the same chems as dish soap so they also defeat the gg advantage.
i am going to get gg4 as i want the water softening & degreasing effect and the glide for the extra slip
Even my supplier told me like that. I choose gg3 because we have very soft water here.
Do you now if the gg chem will froth, foam? But interesting news - didn’t know it also was a degreaser.
none of the gg products produce much suds/foam it is the chemicals that produce the suds that are largely to blame for the residue left behind.
I just started with both. Idk, i just don’t like gg. I’m going to keep giving it a try, just wasnt impressed. Tried gg3 years ago and didn’t like it.
Was it you who said once, about “why Do i go back and try something again when i didn’t like it the first time?”
i’m not sure if i said that precisely but it did happen with my constructor beast brush and now i realize how powerful it is. 
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gg4 take some getting use to i started with gg4 but now i use both gg4 and dawn because i like the slip
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I haven’t used the gg glide yet , I stil use the gg concentrate with Ecover . Been using it for about 2 years now , and I don’t see my self switching to anything else. Prior to that I was just using Dawn . All I can say is when I switched to gg and ecover , it was a huge game changer for me . Hardly any streeks and touch-ups now
@GenaroGuzman what did you use before?
Dawn
I will say that you do have to use more than the recommended amount . I feel it’s been deluted in the last year . I probably use about 3 oz in about 4 gallons of water and a squirt of ecover . You just have to play with the doses and see what works for you .
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… I have found that to be true when using almost any kind
of a t-bar applicator however, with a hogs hair brush there
is a lot of suds.
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Yeah i have this problem too. I do like the results of gg but i feel like i still end up using quite a bit of dawn. I even tried to double up on the gg and glide and no dawn and still just not happy with the slip.
I really tried to keep out the dawn but it really ended ul slowing me down not being able fan correctly.
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There are cleaners that have very little suds and leave a heavy film. Then there are heavy sudsers that leave very little film. There are also cleaners that leave few suds and little film Also cleaners that leave mucho sudz and a heavy film. What I am saying guys, is sudz is not the reason for filming. My theory is filming is a deposit of surfactant molecules on the glass. How much is deposited depends on the electrical charge of the surfactant molecule and the glass surface. There are several different surfactant families. Determined by their electrical properties. There are anionics, cationics, nonionics, amphoterics, and lastly the zwitterionics. Which of these have been used for glass cleaners we might ask. Mostly the anionics. Dawn was created for dishes. Which are usually made of glass. It is a blend of two different organic anionics. P & G has added not more than 1% sodium hydroxide to cut grease. This is a VERY powerful grease cutter. It is an alkalie, grease is an acid, so the two nuetralize. The anionics by themselves don’t cut grease well enough. Many other window cleaners in a plastic bottle are based on anionics also. Anionics are negatively charged. Glass is too. Like charges repel. Dislike charges attract. So positively or even nuetrally charged molecules tend to be attracted to glass. Forming heavy films. Anionic surfactants are repelled. This could be the reason why Dawn leaves very little film.
Move in nonorganic anionic super surfactants. These are made with the silicon atom not carbon. So they are much more powerful. That means all we need is very little. Only .1% will do it. I am starting to work with different surfactant manufacturers. You will learn about them on this Forum. Or you can go to my blog. Or my Facebook Group.
Come join the noise.
Henry
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Not to hijack the thread especially since I’m interested in going in a different with soap, but are you able to leave beast brush on the glass while rinsing? I don’t really see the purpose of the boars hair on a constructor brush if I can’t rinse on glass. Recently on a job I had to switch to the Tucker hybrid because the constructor wasn’t cutting through some built up grime.
