I’m looking to start offering hard water stain removal to my services, I have several customers I could sell this to. I just want to be able to do it right, do it quick and make some money.
-what is the best product to use?
-what should I charge? (Ball park figures)
-is it a difficult process?
Thanks for the help guys
Mike Radzik
Pro Window Cleaning
Central, Mass
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The best product I’ve found is OneRestore. Easy, quick, and works amazing. I charge double the price of a regular window. So, a $15 DH would be $30.
http://shopwindowcleaner.com/eachochem-onerestore.html
I spray in on with a spray bottle, use a white scrub pad, rinse, then wash like normal. If it’s bad, I would recommend sealing it, because it’ll just come back worse.
Awesome, thanks… Doesn’t sound too difficult and $30/window sounds profitable
Mike Radzik
Pro Window Cleaning
Central, Mass
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im no means an expert but I recently bought a makita polisher machine and been experimenting with it.
I bought it from a friend that was doing waterspot removal and quit the industry so he gave me all his solutions and “how to” tips.
If you think about it, when doing waterspot removal by hand you basically get a white scrub pad and put an abrasive solution on it like MDR, one restore or what ever is out there. You then start scrubbing by hand, if the stains are light then you will succeed, if the stains are heavy you will be scrubbing for a while before you see progress.
If the stains are heavy then put that white pad on a machine and let the machine do the work, thats all there is to it in a nut shell.
I suggest you start with a mr hardwater kit, for about $300 youd be good to go. This will help you gain the confidence u need for the first job.
After that I think you will figure things out on how to save money and work more efficiently.
even though I have my own polisher I still spent $150 on mr hardwater pads and solutions, his customer support is awesome as he will answer all your questions. You need to invest a little if you want to make alot.
Last week I did a commercial water spot removal on two glass panes (6x3), took me 45 mins and I charged them $250
This white pad you use - is it the same as synthetic steel wool?
I have used a hard felt pad to do hard water stain removal in the past (mostly on shower doors) and found that in some cases, very fine swirl marks were evident. That put me off selling the service for a while but would be keen to give it another go if I could find a product/pad match that worked while not damaging the glass surface.
deccymc
white pad
Unger 8 inch Scrub Pad
Im just getting into spot removal so i can only guess you an answer, hopefully someone with more experience can chime in.
It sounds like you were on the right path when you did your removal service. Here is my opinion
From what i hear, if there are swirl marks left on the glass then a wool polishing pad along with cerium oxide can be used to follow that up and remove those swirls, u need a machine for this process though.
mr hardwater kit will get you all the correct pads, chemical solutions, and step-by-step process for water spot removal. in addition you can call him up and ask any questions and he will educate you on the process.
I am such an advocate for mr hardwater because last week when i was clueless and afraid to take that step into waterspot removal I ordered from him and he coached me up enough for me to attempt my first job. speaking on the phone is way different then reading in a forum.
OneRestore is not abrasive…
Nice…Did you get before and after pics…Pic’s are great for your website.
1.Not wool pad you need a[COLOR=“#0000CD”] foam pad.[/COLOR]
2.True
Cerium oxide works very well.
no i did not get b4 n after pics, it was my first waterspot job and so I was too busy concentrating on the task at hand.
Im not worried though because there are tons of glass out there that need clearing and are more ideal for show-n-tell pics, i see them every day.
check that, it wasnt one restore it was A1 that I was thinking about.
Steel wool has mor of a bit to it…as somebody on here in the past said…
The reason the felt left swirls the compound you used did not sit still in the felt pad so the compound was moving in multiple direction.
Thats why you need to use a dense foam pad to hold the compound tight. You should use cerium oxide as your removal agent.
mr hardwater as good tools for people learning to remove hard water stains, then as you advance your skills you will figure out what works best.
We have always used barkeepers friend to remove hard water stains from windows or showers. We use the liquid form with a plastic scotch guard dish scrubbie then rinse. We never had any problems with scratching, or damage. The other day the glass doctor came out to do a customers shower and was unable with all his tools, the next day we came out and one guy spent about 40 min and it was spotless.
Thanks wcs.
When you say a dense foam pad, are we talking about something like this?
Rubbish Boy’s ::: 135mm Hi-Gloss Polishing Pad (Orange)
Are you suggesting use of cerium instead of water stain remover (I think the brand I used to use is Malco)?
Starting to feel a little more enthusiastic about the service now!
I would use the yellow pad (135mm Yellow Finishing).
Cerium oxide is what I use it is the same stuff jewelers and folks that polish optical Lens ect. CRL 1 Lb. Polishing Cerium Oxide thru C.L Laurence
Back when I was shown how to do this my my former employer, it was kaboom and steel wool. I honestly, in a pinch, have used the same method to this day.
the answer to this question folks:
Glass Renu. Best system for taking and damage of any kind of of glass. Their customer service is simply amazing.
^ not everyone has $2500 to spend on a system that is way overpriced.
Nothing about glass renu is proprietary except for their disks. You could pretty much buy everything in their system off ebay, except for their disks.
total = $380
so whats left in the glass renu system is the price on the disks used for polishing and grinding = $2,120
ridiculous if you ask me
I just bought some disks from mr hardwater for $50 along with the items 1-4 above and
spent a totla of about $450 to get myself doing water spot removal.
If I was getting into scratch removal I would with out a doupt spend the money to invest in the glass renu system because its no joke to mess around with glass when you get to the level of grinding away the surface layers. But with waterspot removal you are not degrading the integrity of the glass by removing layers, you are just lightly working on the very top of the glass trying to remove the staining.
waterspot removal is very elementary and does not require glass renu system, compared to
scratch removal which require advanced technique and methods and would probably be best for beginners to go with glass renu system
Just bought and used OneRestore. Very nice product. Sample small area before you move ahead. I have been using 1 part oneRestore to three parts water in a spray bottle. Someone had mentioned the mixture in the review of the product with WCR. Good luck!
Hey he’s alive…
Just be very careful when using chemicals to remove damage it can easily create more damage.
Yes…very much alive. How would you remove it…any more advice? I know you had private messaged me a few time…sorry for not getting back to you. It won’t allow me to respond privately until I have done 15 or so private messages. September exceeded my expectations with work! How have you been?
