Hot water wfp

wndoclnr24 · March 10, 2009, 1:42pm

hey everyone-
i just joined the forum and am learning a lot about using the wfp system. i dont currently own a system but am interested in possiblity of using hot water for initial cleans (not ccu). has anyone used this method? is it worth the added expense? thanks.

joel

RHG_Products · March 10, 2009, 10:01pm

Hello Joel,

Hot water will make initial cleans a lot faster and certainly cut down on the time of each cleaning afterwards.

Any other questions, feel free to ask.

BostonMike · March 11, 2009, 7:06am

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]In carpet cleaning the hotter the water the better the results. When guys buy a new machine that generates hotter water the new results blow them away. I’m sure this principle translates over to WFP usage. [/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][B]There is a pie shapes graph for cleaning effectiveness used in the carpet cleaning industry. Heat, Agitation, Chemical, and Dwell Time.[/B] [/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]If one element is limited another element must be increased to achieve cleaning efficiency. [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]For instance [/FONT][/COLOR]if your machine has low heat you can make up for it by scrubbing harder, using stronger chemicals, or letting the chemicals sit on the carpet longer before rinsing. [/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]A WFP has always had Agitation (the hogs hair brush), but almost no dwell time (water evaporates to quickly), no chemicals (pure water cleans, but not like a strong detergent), and up till now no heat. Prior till now WFP users only had one element of the four part graph to work with, scrub like hell. I know, some guys are pretreating the glass with window cleaning solution, but this extra step takes time, and time is money. [B]Now we can add heat to our systems, a HUGE time saver in carpet cleaning and I would assume water fed poling as well. [/B][/FONT][/COLOR]

BostonMike · March 11, 2009, 12:13pm

I’m a big believer in the backpack sprayer, maybe I should make it a hot water backpack like this guy from the UK.

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wndoclnr24 · March 13, 2009, 8:50am

thanks for all the info. i did see somewhere in this forum about an L5 heater that someone used inline to heat up the water. this sounded like a cost effective way if it actually works. has anyone done this? i am from michigan so hot water would certainly help extend the wfp season.

joel

Njones · March 20, 2009, 5:16pm

I’m using an L5 heater for WFP,… I’d NEVER go back to cold,… it makes a world of difference!

system · March 20, 2009, 5:34pm

We only use cold water in our wfps. But I can see big advantages in a hot water system. Especially if you need to clean off oily substances, like pollution.

system · March 20, 2009, 5:35pm

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RHG_Products · March 20, 2009, 5:44pm

KennyD:

Hey guys,

I can definately vouch to say that hot water cleans better. On the clubhouse, there is a gym that is about 2 stories above the ground. I do not have a DI, RO, or DI/RO system, just a plain tucker pole. When I attach the hose I use to the water source, it gives me the option for hot or cold.

The HOT knob turned on, CLEANS ALL THE DIRT OFF WITH MINIMAL scrubbing. I do this area every week or so (depending on the wind), and I have cleaned it using just cold water and the results weren’t as good.

Now, I don’t have TDS meter, so I do not know the quality of the water but it normally has about a 60 percent chance of drying perfectly without any spots (except on the BOTTOM of the window). A good majority of the glass I clean in the clubhouse is water-phobic (I think thats the right term), as it SHEETS water away compared to spotting. The result? The windows dry from the top and work it’s way to the bottom, streak free and looking better than you could ever do by hand (Not to mention saving your back from carrying 3 pieces of ladder)

Hydrophobic- Beads up
Hydrophillic- Sheets

BostonMike · March 21, 2009, 7:12am

Hot water vs. cold water
Have you ever tried to wash your hands when they’re really dirty in cold water? You get nothing until the hot water starts to come out right?
HEAT CLEANS!

system · March 25, 2009, 6:56pm

Hi lads whats a L5 then ?

llaczko · March 25, 2009, 8:40pm

http://www.windowcleaner.com/vBulletin/showthread.php5?t=2750&highlight=heater

http://www.windowcleaner.com/vBulletin/showthread.php5?t=2721&highlight=heater

system · March 26, 2009, 3:59pm

Cheers llaczko

Think i will look into this for my van set-up would you only fit this after the RO water is made if so then after the DI tank aswell ? Will the hose be oks and the fittings ?

Cheers Denbo

system · September 24, 2009, 3:20pm

do you think you could add this to your trolly WFP or vehicle system to make it hot??

Eccotemp L5 Portable Tankless Water Heater | Overstock.com

pro_window_kleening · September 24, 2009, 9:01pm

So heating the di water to what temp to brush ??? Are we going to have problems with cracking the window ??? How much more cleaning is there ??? Would heating the water for awning cleaning help ??? Stan