45% Sodium Laurel Sulfate
45% Sodium Laureth Sulfate
8% Silicone Polyether Phosphate
2% Sodium Hydroxide
Cuts through fingerprints, creates perfect suds, leaves very little film, excellent glide, and makes the glass glow. It is a hybrid because it is a blend of carbon and silicon based surfactants.
And yes. Manufacturers won’t do this for you. Especially now the “formula” is public domain.
Henry
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Henry I’m curious, if someone wanted to put this together can they source the producta locally? Yes or no where do you get these chemicals?
Second question, Sorbo expresses that he seperated his soap from the wettinf agent (slip) so he xould adjuat the ratios based on the job he was doing. He sells his soap and slip as seoerate products. Can this be done with a solution lime this?
There are times when I use dawn for slip and suds and times when I prefer GG4 for less slip longer wet time and lower suds. I love the idea of veing able to have a soap that has been seperated where you can add the ingredience together based on the job and adjust the performance of the soap.
I’m curious how easy it would be to put something like that together?
It looks like this will be the hardest ingredient to source in reasonable quantities. The other three are all popular soap-making ingredients.
As far as adjusting slip and wetting characteristics, I’m guessing it will come down to just tweaking the concentrations a bit.
@Henry, I assume those percentages are by weight? Where can we find the silicone stuff?
Keep in mind that Soren is in the business of product development and sales. Any soap naturally gives slip. And slips can have suds or not. We can pull apart the ingredients based on the different molecules used. Then adjust the formula according to what we like. What you are proposing is what I want all of us to do. It can easily be done. I am attempting to source the individual ingredients/surfactants/chemical compounds now. How many people do you think would want to develop their own formulas?
What I would like is the Easy Bake Oven version of what you’re suggesting. Send/source me the 4 or 5 basic components. Then give me a pretty little “recipe book” written for a 5 year old 
Hi Alex, you are right on spot! I am trying to source all of these ingredients this week. And will let you know on this thread how it is coming. There is really no end to this idea. If fully realized it could vanquish all commercial soaps. Maybe not. Most people just like to buy ready mixed commercial products. The easiest road is the one most traveled. Hmmm;…what does that remind me of? Hey tell my old friend I am hoping he is doing well!
Henry
OK. Keeping my word here is the update. Three of the ingredients were very easy!
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Remember to use extreme caution when working with sodium hydroxide. In fact I would leave this out of the original formula that I posted and add it directly to you bucket by the quarter teaspoon. This is a pure 100% powder and will actually melt glass at very high concentrations in water. It will chemically burn your skin. Will make you blind if it gets in your eyes. I need to make a video to show how we should work with it. In the meantime you could use ammonia as a substitute.
Still looking into the silicone polyether phosphate
Henry
The percentages Alex are by volume. Easier then by weight. We can’t do Easy Off. It has other chems in it. Also I like to increase the percentage at times when stripping grease. Had a pizza restaurant once that was loaded with grease. I made up a 5% solution in water, added some soap, and cut. Wore rubber gloves. Should have worn goggles! If I know you well enough I know you don’t need a recipe book written for a five year old. But I do agree simple is not a bad thing. That is why I chose to measure by volume. All of my formulas will be that way.
Henry
Henry, I wonder also if there could be soaps mixtures that would chance based on temperature and humidity? I have found that hot soap seems to be thinner than cold, as well as the same for water I imagine. So, I have found that I seem to need slightly less soap in the winter because the mixture performs differently in the glass, so I need less slip. Humidity also affects how the solution works on the glass. I also imagine the cold rubber also is a variable to consider.
Yes yes yes! All of these conditions are variables that we are sensitive to. Only we get it. That is the precise reason our formula should be adjustable. Being able to manipulate the ingredients will give us that control. Who doesn’t like control?
Henry
Very interesting stuff Henry! I look forward to your developments!
Once again great job! Can you give us a simple description of what each ingredient adds to the mix? That way if we want to adjust the mix it will gove us some idea of how to adjust. Thanks.
Very good suggestion. Keep them coming!
Henry
I would also love a good spray cleaner for leaded glass and chandeliers. One that I could put in small bottles and label and maybe give to the customer as a gift and marketting card. Not sure if you have any ideas on that?
I know some people have gotten the 4oz cans of SprayWay and wrapped them with their own labels. (It’s a smart idea to label them as “for demo use only, not for retail sale”, to avoid issues with safety labeling/testing)
It looks like they’re not making those 4 oz cans anymore though. They used to have them at Home Depot for just $1 a piece. Now they have 6oz cans for $1.39. Still not a bad deal.
Yes I definiely have ideas. And thanks for the jump Alex. As always. Let me look at the chemistry later tonight and I will get back to you on this thread.
Henry
My two cents…
If you are giving a customer something to clean with (any type of chemical) you REALLY should be giving something that is labeled and made by a manufacture. I realize it’s a gift and someone’s intent behind it, but there are laws in place about liability and manufactured products.
It’s just not a good idea from a liability standpoint.
I have seen those comments. For me if I was to do this I would want my own formula. Whether I gave it to the customer or not I think it adds to a more professional presentation having a product you can say that you make yourself.
Fish window cleaning has one that they have in a clear pump spray bottle that I liked the formula of. They also have a spray can like spray away but I have not tried that one. I like the one in the pump spray though.
Something to consider.
