My vessel is made from a 2’ section of 4" PVC. My question is, could I use the filter sock above as a liner inside my vessel to keep resin from pouring out, or back flushing into my supply hose? I know that I would need to tie the bag at the top before I close up my unit.
Secondly, is 200 microns small enough to keep in the resin? How big are resin beads, anyway?
If this works out, it will be a lot easier than what I have been using.
Alex
that is what IPC used in there old DI carts and also what was in and old EZ Pure DI filter I busted open. It will work for you. What kind of cap are you using on your PVC tube? Can you post a picture?
Old post I know but I have a Home Right Ionic washer. The small blue tank with a bypass valve. They wont tell me the amount of resin but I am guessing 1/8 cube. The refill comes in a bag for $45. I will be buying a cube so a refill for the 1/4 and half cube with enough to refill this. Wondered if it was worth to get a sock and make my own bag? Normally are they tied or do I get out the small machine and sew up the end? Do they even make small socks? Too bad panty hose wont work.
I would definitely recommend sewing a hem on the top if you have to cut it like I did. I was in a rush putting it together, and now the ends fray a little more each time I change the resin. I have a somewhat unique setup: the input line has a pipe that runs down the middle of the housing, right through the sock. I used zipties on either end to secure the sock tightly around the pipe. It works flawlessly.
I’ll try and remember to take pics the next time I change the resin. Its a pretty unique setup
Thanks. I see socks here and there but not sure what micron size to get. I am going to use this DI up untill exhausted. Use for rentals and sometimes new const. Glass does not need to be perfect but rinse off cleaners a bit of DI helps. This is also my emergency DI. Small to carry around to make 100 gal or so. I was going to make my own as well. Siemens water has a riser kit for 15.00 which comes with a 42" 1/2’ tube and basket type filter. Different size caps. My replacement manifold as $20 and had 3/4 in/out. Bags are 4-15 all sizes.
Too bad you cant just pour the resin in. My tube in the old DI tank I have just has a round disk that the riser attaches to with a bit of mesh screen to keep the resin in and another piece on the water in side to keep resin from flowing back out. You may not need a sock.
I had a crazy idea. Folks are getting rid of their pool filter tanks. Upgrading to new filters. I can get these and remove the sand. Modify the riser and have a massive DI Tank. Maybe put all the used resin in it and eventually see what comes out.
I think i bought a 100 micron sock- the resin beads are much larger than the mesh, so you could probably go with a 200 or 400 micron sock and still be ok.
before I went with the sock, I “fabricated” a similar disk thing, and lined it with a huck towel. Flow was atrocious, and resin would start leaking out after awhile…
I would use the standard riser assy, possibly the basket type end cap. Since risers are 1/2", basically sch 48/80 pvc it is easy to increase the size from 1/2 to 1.5" using the reducer, as you would when plumbing. Use the same manifold but reduce from 1.5 to 3/4 with threaded end for hose. Same going in 3/4 to 1.5". In theory it is doable. New resin would cost a fortune. My pool sand filter is the 2’ round tank. 125 lbs of sand gets about half way. Have not figured the volume but at least 2-3 cubes. Just need to know how much space is needed for any expansion. Still a project of the mind. Haven’t checked Google to see if anyone else was stup… I mean curious and did that yet.
just an idea but wondered if, for my small DI, maybe 1/8 cube or less than 1/4 definitely. What about a nylon? Is it too dense? There are some that are not so dense. Range from 200-400 microns. Just an idea. Have some resin so thought I would take the canister apart and see if I can make a bag for it. Take the bag and see if I can get a similar size.
Well I took out the small Di bag. It measures 3.25" x 11"so we are talking .05 cube. I will reuse the bag. Pull out threads and then resew it. I mainly use this thing as a rinser if doing new const or a move out clean. After I clean the windows I rinse with water then give a spray with this. Most of the time I wont have to squeegee. It is portable and compact so if run out of my water I can use this. Has a bypass function so that works out pretty good. I still might add a nylon hose just in case.
I might make my own set up , something like your PVC tube. Unless there is a place to exchange resin here I figured instead of throwing it away I will make sure it is all exhausted. Put all the old DI in this tube I make and run water thru it first then to the second DI. Save the DI tank with the new resin for the large jobs.
I filled the resin bag and made a 1" hole in seam. Hand stitched. Better than what was there. Resin came out to about 1.5 liter or 6 cups in a measuring bowl. As for the making of a PVC tank. Will get a 4" manifold and 2-3’ riser with basket. Need to see if 4" threads match the PVC 4" threads. Or can get a manifold, riser assy and a 6x35 .57 ft3 tank. Tank is 75, 26 for manifold, and 15 for riser assy. 120 and free shipping. Use the old .4 for the junk resin and short fill old resin into it. Aquarium folks will add a bit of DI to their DI filters to extend the DI capability. If the old DI can cut down on the TDS it helps out in the end. If it cuts 180 to 80 then 80 goes into the water making DI maker tank. Get much more water with 80 ppm vice 180 ppm.
Got a box of nylons for $1. Was looking at the bag and there were small holes along the seams where the bag was sewn, not my job, when made. Beads were able to come out. There is a piece of foam that covers the outlet that caught loose beads but added the nylon around the sock. Tested a bit with a bit of beads and it seemed to hold them in if not stretched too much. You can even double the sock using nylon. Going to pop into canister today and give it a run.
[MENTION=3471]Alex Lacey[/MENTION]
I was thinking to make a 6" pvc storage DI sort of like a pre-DI. As I use the DI I really don’t want to throw it away but when going into dbl digits I like to exchange so what to do to get it all used. I was going to put the bad resin in DI made from 6" pvc. I make my water and usually not a lot of pressure. The out will go to my good DI. I use my small/worse DI now which cuts TDS from 170ish to like 30 then it goes thru my good DI. was 0 for a while but now climbing to 2 and 3. But hey, any way to reduce the TDS is a big helper. I have a lead on an old water softner type tank. Would be awesome because can withstand pressure, rather large and in and out fittings. Just need to adapt out fitting with a PVC fitting to accept a riser and basket. Could go 4". How much resin does your hold?
[MENTION=30474]Jackllfixit[/MENTION] I never took an actual measurement, but I calculated the volume to be around 1/5 of a cubic foot. Hope that helps.
On a side note, I finally purchased a 1/2 cube DI tank from WCR, and I wish I had sprung for that from the start. So much easier, and the water flow is amazing. I fill my tank in 5 minutes now :D. I used quick connect garden hose fittings, so when I need to take it inside (like last night when it got down to 23F), I just pop the hose off, and connect the hose ends to each other to prevent dripping. Very convenient! and It also allows me to connect my trigger nozzle for doing a spot free rinse on the car, or for mini blinds (on the rare occasion I clean them).
Anyhow, the commercial DI tank was such a no-brainer, I kind of feel embarrassed for starting this thread ;). But I did learn about plumbing and stuff. lol
[MENTION=3471]Alex Lacey[/MENTION]
Shouldn’t feel embarrassed. I was able to fix my car wash filter. Cut a hole, repacked, sew up hole. Noticed beads could escape. dbl panty hosed it. Good as new. I checked the cube price with making my own. They are pretty spot on the price. Although a cube I can make for a bit cheaper. I bought before I knew about WCR so making things work. I like tinkering so maybe a larger 4" to fit a 1.2 cube resin. Heck most of the pvc can get for free. Caps , riser for 15 plus shipping but can make own basket filter. Getting a big ro filter and a pvc housing seems more fun to build. Under 100 for a low pressure RO. Guess hanging around the aquarium guys helped.
@Alex Lacey
I sort of lucked out. Found a water softener on CL. Selling a 1 cube tank for $50. Has the riser and basket already, may need to replace the manifold, only $24. The expensive part is getting the resin but a 1 cube will make a lot of DI water. Now I won’t mind taking the small ones to jobs, carry less water around. That small RO running water thru the large tank as a polisher it will last for ever.
The guy is a bit confused. I asked him for the tank measurements. He thinks a cube bit might be the 10x44 which is 1.5 cube. Either one, even is it ends up as a 1/2 cube is cool too.
even better news, will let me have it for $30 and says it is about 5’ tall, over 4’ and fat so this is 1.5 cubes. maybe 10" x 54" tank. Awesome.
It is 9" x 48 so it is the Fleck 5600 32,000 grain tank. It is a cube. 30 for a cube tank is a deal. Possibly 2000 gallons and more if run ro thru it. At this point a cube will last a very long time
[MENTION=6741]wcs[/MENTION]
I’ll bring my son and wear tattered clothes, wait already do that. When he cries because he is thirsty I’ll tell him daddy needs to pay this man for the tank. I cannot afford you a drink anymore. Teach him the “sad” face. LOL
What in the heck do I do with a brine tank? Comes with the tank. Store old resin? Use for water storage? Hmmm. What to do:confused:
