My first week with Scrim

Been using hucks for years and just realized how much time I’m spending washing them, folding them, and I have enough dryer lint to make a pretty nice sweater… for a family of polar bears.

So pulled the trigger, ordered a scrim and gave it a shot.

Washed it 4 times, threw it in the dryer each time to remove lint and took it out on a job.

First impression: I don’t like carrying a beach towel around on the job.
Second impression: it does work good for detailing.

So I used it for a day then took it home and cut it in half. I know that’s heresy over in the UK, but I don’t like having such a big towel. Hemmed it, washed it, took it back out and it worked great.

I’m still getting used to the big towel (even if it’s cut in half it’s still 3’x1.5’) but it works great. The rumor is that you can use these things damp, so when the towel gets to the point of being damp (the same point where I’d switch out a damp huck for a dry one), I kept using it to see if it would continue to work. It does! It’ll still suck in water when damp.

I tried the [MENTION=327]Dangerous[/MENTION] Dave method of wetting them and wringing them out, but even cranking on them, I couldn’t get it to wring out enough. I’m guessing that’s why the UK guys don’t cut theirs: with the bigger towel, you can wring it and, since there is a lot of material, it’ll wring down and out to where you can use it immediately.

I was looking at the car wash towel wringers and they’re pretty expensive. Until a friend of mine (who buys storage units) says he throws those in the trash all the time. He didn’t think they were worth anything. So next time he tosses one, it’s going to be mounted in the back of my truck!

So when one scrim is too damp to use, I hang it over my now empty dirty towel laundry basket and use the second one. When that one is wet, the other one is good to go.

I also started using just a generic microfiber to wipe the sills inside. Outside I just use my sill squeegee. The generic microfiber wipes good and holds a LOT of water. When it gets full, you can wring it out and keep going. I tried the PVA towels, but they want to grip on the sills and I don’t like that. They do hold a lot of water, but they’re hard to wipe with. I picked up a hip clip to hold the microfiber off the side of my unger bag and it works great.

As for the huck towels, I still carry one around for detailing lettering. When my scrim is damp, it’s easy to grab a huck and just wipe up the lettering real quick. But one huck per week is better than 100.

So when I start hiring employees their kit will include 2 hucks, 3 pieces of scrim (1.5 actual scrims) and 2 microfibers for wiping sills. They can hang the towels up at the end of the day and they’ll be ready for the next day. Then I’ll wash everything on friday and be ready for the next week. One load of towels per week ain’t gonna be half bad.

Oh, and being a big frickin towel might prevent them from losing it.

Oh, I’m probably going to try and dye one of them and see if it affects absorbency. The light color of the scrim shows up the commercial gasket “skid marks” making them look like they’re dirty even when they’re clean. If I can dye it a darker color, they’ll look cleaner.

So I pulled the trigger,ordered a scrim an gave it a shot.

Jared that is a big decision I hope your right about this one ?

Cutting them In half is the way to go . There still long you can even cut some of the length off .

Using them wet like Dange shows works good it’s just to much work for me to wring them out ,so I started just spraying them with my spray bottle I use for my unger indoor pads just so I get enough wetness, but now I’m back to dry
The thing I like most about using scrims for route is that I could just use two all day , an I don’t have a bunch of wet hucks all over the place

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i love scrim ,so long lasting and versatile . iv not yet worn one out and iv had some 6 yrs now

I think I’m gonna give my scrims another shot. It’s not about saving on towel use so much, as having something that will hopefully leave a little less lint. I only go through around 5 hucks for a really long day. Most resi jobs I can get through with 2 hucks and a thick wipe-up towel (cut down bath towel).

Big mistake cutting them in half.

Try trapping them in the truck window so they blow dry from job to job.

Noooooo!!! Why do you think that. ?

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[MENTION=12729]JaredAI[/MENTION] everything you said is spot-on. i really like scrims, but i don’t like the huge size. i would rather have two medium ones and alternate back and forth, rather than a single one the size of a tall ship mainsail.

i bought a bunch last year and gave them to my guys. they liked them, but apparently not enough, since almost all of them have disappeared. i think if you had noobs and the scrim was their first and only detailing tool, that would work great. veterans might have a hard time adopting them, especially if they don’t have to drop their own ten-spot on one.

and YES on the microfibers. i think those things are one of the great underutilized tools in window cleaning. just like that wise old german proverb: “sponges are for jerks, microfibers are for studs.”

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I was actually thinking of cutting them in fourths… :wink:

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they dry off in the back of the truck pretty quick.

But toss a wet one in the hood or roof and it should bake dry lickety split.

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That would be a big mistake. Done it to small

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I agree entirely. Ask Dangerous Dave - I told him not to go there, he did it… he regrets it.

And stop throwing them in the dryer, it charges the cloth statically.

They work damp so i don’t see a problem.

But i actually like the medium size so I’ll probably keep them at half size.

Other than bring able to wring it out what’s the benefit for full size?

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I have cut a bunch if them in half an don’t regret it. I don’t like using full size for route work . I do use full size for resi . I’m waiting to here why they say don’t cut them in half . Maybe ther is a good reason I don’t know I have like 20 halves lol hope there isn’t a good reason

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Ya I don’t dry mine anymore

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I wrote the A4 script that went out when WCR first started carrying them - I think it may be in the “How to use scrim” thread if you can find it.
The beauty of the size is they dry out as you use them.
They also help to ride round the frame on the end of a pole. (When they are new, not so much)
You only use damp on a dry window, i.e. one spot, lines - or to remove fly shit. Use the dry part on wet. It all depends on your squeegee technique & how many ‘holidays’ you have to clean up.
If you are putting them in the dryer & using them damp - go back to the window later & see the mess you made.

Or… they turn into a big, flat piece of icey towely goodness in the winter.

The people who make them BIG are not stupid. I am one of the guys who ignored the advice of veteran scrim users and also regretted it. Live and learn. Full size is the way to go.