How much do you usually get per guy, per hour? I’m right around $40 per man hour.
2 men $80? Dph?
This is a very rough estimate. I’m more interested in a comparison of other markets.
Dave - for us it depends on the service - windows, pw’ing, gutters, roof cleaning, etc…
Are you speaking as an average or for certain services only?
for a seasoned guy 80-100pmh
In the end run? After taxes?
Sorry about being so vague, I was thinking fast. Window cleaning before tax $ per man hour. Lets say 3-4 years experience, but not a 10+ year vet.
Working by myself- avg around $55/hr gross for actual labor. newer jobs are really bringing up the avg. I shudder to think what it would look like if I factored in all the time spent on back end stuff, expenses, and taxes. Still way better than what I’d be earning in the mainstream workforce, though :).
Windows-$60-70. And gutters $100-120 depending on house. Those are my rates, but like stated above, gross pay. Less expenses, i think there is enough for bread and water.
We shoot for no less than $50 pmh. Goal is $75. $100-150 pmh for pressure washing or gutters.
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Resi windows: $50 - $75 per man hour
Gutters: $75 - $100 per man hour
Pw’ing: $50 - $100 per man hour
All depends on the job - I would say for all services overall $75 would be a good average.
40 pmh is low if you want a sustainable business that will allow you to pay your people well and maintain a steady growth.
Every other service provider is closer to the $65-75 pmh. IMO that’s the goal and even then no one is getting rich but it will allow you to breathe a little and sleep better.
Wait a sec I thought it was $600 an hour
window cleaning - $60 to $90 per man hour. On the job production not counting drive time or lunch. The $90 is on the high end and doesn’t happen a lot, but feels really good when it does.
It used to be, but I just upped the bar… made $2670/hr on a job last week if you only count time cleaning the windows. If you count the time it took me to set up and break down my Pure water system I only made $1780/hr.
The end of this season I pushed a lot of pwing with exterior windows. I find that the softwash process loosens all the stuff that you would otherwise have to scrape off of glass. So when I’m done with the pw then its just a quick rinse with the wfp. Average 2 story house takes me about 1 hour 15 mins to pw, and about 15-20 mins to wfp the windows. So In an hour / half or so $350 = over 150/ hr. This has helped me get window jobs from the low baller companies that would charge 1/2 my prices on the windows only.
So when your doing these calculations… are you figuring in on site time per job… Or are you looking at the whole day?
You could do 3 residential jobs a day… Are you looking at shop time before and after and travel time in between as well?
My charging ends up about $75 to $100 an hour. When you figure gas, mess around time, and the 20% tax bracket, I end up with as low as $50 an hour. Sometimes worse. In then end it is still way worth it. Once I hire employees and we are knocking out 4-5 houses a day +, my take home will drop, but the amount I make will rise considerably.
a small airport tower perhaps?
no kidding,
there’s pmh on the job
pmh of payroll hours (day start leave shop thru to day end back to shop)
8hour equivalent
after operations expenses
after all expenses, true pre tax profit (don’t forget one’s own wage in the calculations)
and my favorite: the 52 week average, that’s the most real number, well, actually, the 52 week average of 8 hour equivalent production $ for forecasting
I like the Direct Labor Ratio, its easy to see the ideal is 3.33 or higher. Yet Greg said he typically sees 3.5 - 4.5 (including owner’s own market wage for field work in there too or things get skewed.)
I gotta put up some of these simple number templates I’ve been working on, very eye opening.