Hmmm…somehow this seems to be turning into an scrim vs. huck debate. Not my intention at all. Too each his own. If scrims are working for you than all the more power to you. That doesn’t really answer my question at all. I’m not concerned with how many rags I go through, it’s not an issue for me.
@trenchfeet As far as dirty water goes you might want to try keeping your solution in a 5 gal bucket or something similar and only pouring what your need for the next job or two into your bucket that you take with you. I don’t know what size jobs your doing but I would think a 1/4 -1/2 gallon (or less) would handle most store fronts in and out.
Its not about a debate between the 2 or 3 types of rags like @freemind said each has its place I use 2 hucks on average house 1 scrim for the week I only use microfiber when cleaning louvers.
If your using 1 rag for both jobs then wiping the sill and detailing he glass, that is not the best way to do it as you WILL transfer dirty water to the glass of have to get a new rag every time your primary gets wet.
just like my procedure for cleaning louvers: mist with pure water wipe with huck then clean off with microfiber and buff with scrim did about 250 the other day took 90-120mins had i not used the scrim and only used microfiber the glass would not have been to my standard of clean tbph.
I like scrims because of their versatility and longevity. Blues are better at getting into tight spots where water creeps in, but surgical towels don’t dry as quickly. I save a lot of time with scrims by cutting down trips to the truck. It’s like a chamois and surgical towel in one shot.
The only issue I have with scrims is that it takes a while to break them in.
I do the same with a huck towel “surgical towel” usually just one last all day. Use cotton towels to clean up sills or drips not on the glass. For res I might use 2 or 3 depending on type of windows and if we are cleaning 2 or more homes that day. If it’s say just 1 home and 10 or so storefronts , or only storefronts one towel will last all day. I really like scrim it details like a champ , I just didn’t like the size of it.
instead of dipping use a sprayer. 5 gallon battery operated or 1 gallon hand pump doesn’t really matter.
bring some extra water in buckets.
you have fresh clean solution for every window, your applicator gets a bit of a rinse with every window.
you can spray the window or your applicator.
thank you buzz, i didn’t i didn’t want to turn this into a shameless plug for my own benefit but since you mention it…
the rig is well under way, one side is completely loaded with washing machines and dryers so we can replenish any quantity of towels. the other side (no pic available) is being stocked with towels, lots of towels, big towels, small towels, medium size towels. currently we have 3 manufacturers working 24 hrs hours to produce enough towels and are expecting to be fully stocked soon.
towel delivery for heavy towel using window cleaners will be available on demand any where any time.
i’m going to see if john can be our co-ordinator .
Wow…this thread really got off track. I think only 2 or 3 people actually had relevant comments. Funny that seems to happen a lot here. It’s as if some people here are more concerned with inflating their ego and telling someone they’re doing something wrong than actually exchanging useful data. I expect someone to have some completely irrelevant response to this post. I made sure to spell and punctuate everything properly to avoid someone telling my I missed a period or misspelled something. Anyways…keep it g
p.s. At no point did I ask how to use less towels. Just saying…
In all seriousness, you have a point. Microfiber Wholesale does not list a thread count but they do list the weight per square meter which can determine absorbency.
WCR has a good price on their microfibers, maybe @Chris or @Alex can be persuaded to add thread count info to their product page
Hey fellow Crystal Clear operator That’s a good question. I haven’t seen any statistics as well. But since I started I’d always used the tight knit micro for final detail. Ive been through several different methods over the years… (1) hucks for frame & sills/tight knit micro for edge & spot detail (2) sponge for sill/huck for edge/micro final spots (3) scrim for sills/edges, micro final (4) currently fluffy micro for frame & sill, scrim for edges & spots, one large unger tight knit micro in case of line or haze etc.
Reason I like the fluffy micros over hucks is, in our area of western OK with heavy dirt they dont leave the light residue or line of dirt my hucks would usually. The scrim is usually all i need now with my liquidators but most of my residential windows are sealed with mr. hard water glass sealer so for any light haze or mark a dry tight knit micro has been the best for that. It would be cool to know the difference between companies but I have been extremely happy with unger’s products. Interestingly the orange ABC brand of tight knit was what I 1st tried starting out. They are half the price of unger & comparing them, they have appeared to be almost the exact same material. I got away from using the 16x16 and now use the 24x36 unger. I do like the ninja ones too. Anyways, hope that contributed to the discussion…
Its funny though because when my brother started with me i showed him my process and when he was with me he did it my way but after working alone he liked to only use the hucks. I usually got on to him when I saw it (he’s my older brother by 2 yrs so I had to give him a hard time you know -weird this emoji is a boy on my note 4 haha) but its cool now cause he has his own company and can do things his way. That was before the glorious “broken-in” scrim but that’s another story.
Hey some real responses:slight_smile:. Thanks for chiming in guys.
@Samuel Thanks for the link. Is Pro a wcr brand? I’m thinking for my next re-supply I’ll order one of each MF they offer in the store and also some generic MF’s and do some comparisons. I’ll post the results here as long as it’s okay with the “big guys up stairs” i.e. WCR
@ATF We Crystal Clear guys gotta stick together lol. I’ll check out the rags you mentioned but If I’m going to use a window cleaning supply company I’d rather give my $ to WCR. Do you know how those compare with the Pro Towels offered by WCR?
CC4Life…jk but yes that info and mentioning another supply brand was my experience when I started 7 years ago and it was close by. Didnt know about the forum and didn’t use it. (If I need to edit the post I will out of respect and didn’t mean to promote a competitor either) I haven’t tried the pro towels at wcr but ill take a look now. I don’t remember seeing a tight knit comparable one to unger’s though. Since I only use 1 or 2 large micros now, I can definitely recommend unger’s for sure.
For the fluffy ones, these are the ones I bought from WWorld Robot or human?
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That’s a good question. I haven’t seen any statistics as well. But since I started I’d always used the tight knit micro for final detail. Ive been through several different methods over the years… (1) hucks for frame & sills/tight knit micro for edge & spot detail (2) sponge for sill/huck for edge/micro final spots (3) scrim for sills/edges, micro final (4) currently fluffy micro for frame & sill, scrim for edges & spots, one large unger tight knit micro in case of line or haze etc.
-weird this emoji is a boy on my note 4 haha) but its cool now cause he has his own company and can do things his way. That was before the glorious “broken-in” scrim but that’s another story.
