Hey everyone,
Just been looking at this product. I know there are like a million glass sealants out there, but this seems a bit special. I’ve ordered a sample to try it out.
I’ll leave you these links:
Self Cleaning Glass, Self Cleaning Window - Rain Racer
RAIN RACER - Self Cleaning Windows, Self Cleaning Glass - Application Instructructions
Elpiem Ltd Self Cleaning Glass Coating, Rain Racer, Self Clean Windows, Hydrophobic Glass Coating,
Let me know your thoughts.
I haven’t checked out the links yet, but doesn’t sealing self-cleaning glass defeat its intended purpose – allowing rain water to assist?
EDIT: ok; it claims to create self-cleaning glass. Actually, they claim to create super hydrophobic glass, where eater and cleaning rejuvenates its properties.
Self-cleaning glass in the real world? Uh, sure…
What do you find so special about this product? What sealants do you currently use?
Some others to look at - Robinson-Solutions Professional Window Cleaning: Shine on click the product links.
What do you find so special about this product?
Two things.
1, the video showing it working is particularly impressive, it repels every last drop of water.
2, it lasts for a minimum of 3 years, and in most cases longer than that.
How do you know that?
Wouldn’t self cleaning glass put us out of work ?
Hype at this point.
These products need rainfall to work. That’s why they don’t work very well over here. Anyone in hot dry areas may experience the same. We also have shutters here, so another problem for rain to get at the windows.
How do you know that?
RAIN RACER Self cleaning glass - FAQ
its says here that it recommends re-application every 3 years, though I’ve read other articles on this product that say it lasts alot longer than that. And to respond to karlos’ comment, that is true about needing rain to work, however what interested me was that in the video demonstrating this product it appears as though every last drop of water ran straight off the glass when it was poured on; if this really does happen consistently in practice then it would indicate that you could just spray windows clean with a pressure washer and just let the water run off.
There seems to be alot of hype with this product and sales patter, which is why I’m skeptical, but if it’s true than this will be an amazing product, but that’s exactly why I’ve ordered a sample to test. I’ll report back 
There are two different types of technology hydrophilic and hydrophobic. One repels water and the other makes the surface water loving and causes water to sheet or the molecules to flatten on the glass. The product on this thread is hydrophobic while the product on Robinsons blog ids hydrophilic. THere is another hydrophilic product on the market that creates a self cleaning surface that lasts for 10 years. It works the same with the sun and rain but it is applied with a compressed srayer.
Either way they both need rain to create a self cleaning surface. Not to mention the hydrophobic technology still allows dirt to dry and stick to the surface. The hydrophilic can still have dirt stick but the sun light breaks it down and the rain can then wash it off.
There are two different types of technology hydrophilic and hydrophobic. One repels water and the other makes the surface water loving and causes water to sheet or the molecules to flatten on the glass. The product on this thread is hydrophobic while the product on Robinsons blog ids hydrophilic. THere is another hydrophilic product on the market that creates a self cleaning surface that lasts for 10 years. It works the same with the sun and rain but it is applied with a compressed srayer.
Either way they both need rain to create a self cleaning surface. Not to mention the hydrophobic technology still allows dirt to dry and stick to the surface. The hydrophilic can still have dirt stick but the sun light breaks it down and the rain can then wash it off.
Yea, TiO2 etc.
I’ve tried both, nano ultra (hydrophilic), and another hydrophobic one which I forget the name of, but yea, still testing nano ultra.
I was just particularly impressed by the video on this one showing it’s performance.
Ever use Rain-X in your windshield washer fluid? I LOVE it! It makes the rain bead up and run right off while I’m driving! I don’t even NEED wipers! But have you ever noticed what it does when your vehicle is stationary? The water grabs the dust/pollen/whatever when it moves through the air, attaches to dirt on the surface of the window and once sitting on your windshield, collects particles from the air floating around. What do you think happens to all that in each bead of water drying up on the glass? It dries and then I have DIRTY spots in the shape of raindrops ALL OVER! H-phobic…no good for stationary windows if you ask me.
I loved the Nano vid where the water sheets off…SMOOTHLY.
Just try Rain-X on your windshield washer fluid and see what happens. If you don’t get much rain…just spray it with your hose and let it dry naturally.
Not only that…but I think anything that ‘protects’ your customer’s windows is counter-productive to your business. 
Hope I could help you consider another aspect of what happens to H-phobic glass.
Unless you just solved their HW stain issue and upsold a sealant application (shower, sprinkler, pool sweep.)
Ohhhh noooo…I just meant from dirt, not HW! LOL 
Ever use Rain-X in your windshield washer fluid? I LOVE it! It makes the rain bead up and run right off while I’m driving! I don’t even NEED wipers! But have you ever noticed what it does when your vehicle is stationary? The water grabs the dust/pollen/whatever when it moves through the air, attaches to dirt on the surface of the window and once sitting on your windshield, collects particles from the air floating around. What do you think happens to all that in each bead of water drying up on the glass? It dries and then I have DIRTY spots in the shape of raindrops ALL OVER! H-phobic…no good for stationary windows if you ask me.
I loved the Nano vid where the water sheets off…SMOOTHLY.
Just try Rain-X on your windshield washer fluid and see what happens. If you don’t get much rain…just spray it with your hose and let it dry naturally.
Not only that…but I think anything that ‘protects’ your customer’s windows is counter-productive to your business.
Hope I could help you consider another aspect of what happens to H-phobic glass.
I have covered most of this in the thread already. I’ve used nanoultra, and hydrophobic sealants, and fully understand how they work. The reason THIS sealant is interesting is because in the demo video it appears to make the glass so hydrophobic that every last drop of water runs off the glass, leaving it bone dry. Whether it actually works like, I’ll to wait and see when I get it, but if it does, then it will be a different league to rain x and all the other sealants, and crucially would not leave water marks on the glass.
As for it ‘being counter-productive to business’. Not if it’s sold to the right customers at the right price. It could give you the unique selling point that you need to help you win over customers that are not currently yours. I think the most important thing would be to keep the name of the product a secret, perhaps by re-bottling it with your own labels.
I didn’t mean to come across as making you look ignorant…I only gave you an analogy because if you lived in a drier area, you wouldn’t know what I know about constant rainfall and dirty windshields!
As far as the product goes, I may be interested in your results…but I still don’t understand why in the world you want to give your customers self-cleaning windows! :eek:
I much prefer glass that is hydrophilic, rather than hydrophobic.
Every year I get salesmen who want me to look at their “permanent” floor sealer. They guarantee it! I tell them to go to the Grand Canyon and then come back and tell me how permanent their sealer is. Their solvent or acrylic based sealer will walk off and show wear patterns like any other sealer and then I have to practically bead blast it to get it off…no thanks.
I would rather have the job security and have to come back at least once a year to clean their windows. If you treated all your customers’ windows, you would only get to return every 3 years…how long you gonna stay in business that way?
just thought I’d add this link, it give a bit more tech info on the product
http://www.rainracer.com/pb2/glassurfchart.htm
It’s interesting that the manufacturer says this: RAIN RACER™stays cleaner for longer than any other type of self - cleaning products without the aid of rain or washing.
Can’t wait to try it
