Size or Pane?

I was checking on the better way for estimating wfp estimating. For small projects, I’d believe the number of panes would work. On very large projects, various sizes of panes and heights, using sq. ft. better? Thank you.

Whatever you do, never, ever, ever use a lower pricing structure for wfp work over conventional window cleaning. Sq ft not real useful, but large and small pane price works, depending on height.

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I price the same for WFP as I would for traditional, that way if you have to trad the job in the future you won’t be selling the project short and you won’t have to re-bid the job… Unless you’re interested in doing the work for the same lower price for more work.

Mike Radzik
Pro Window Cleaning
Central Massachusetts

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I do the same

*** I’m no expert,
just been cleaning windows for a while.
Window Cleaning is Just My job, Not My Life…
~ Pompous Basterd

I understand. My concern is I have a possible estimate coming up that entails several thousands of panes. All exterior and from one to four stories. Some will be difficult and most pretty easy to reach. Way too many variables! With little experience, I want to make sure I do the right thing. Thank you.

Price higher, don’t discount WFP just because it is more efficient.

What if you need to rent a lift in a couple years for that same job? Obviously youll rebid the job to include cost of lift in the work.

But if you WFP the top 3rd and 4th floors then have to ladder up for the 2nd story work you’ll be glad that you priced on the high side as you could be there hours longer than you would if you were just WFP’ing the entire job.

Just letting you know how I would approach the bid and the job in general.

Mike Radzik
Pro Window Cleaning
Central Massachusetts

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Yeah I agree. Always charge more for larger or harder to reach panes. No matter if you’re using a wfp or not. I like mulchtank explanation and that is how I charge. A normal rate for regular sized glass but larger ones I up the price. I’m sure you’ll make the right decision on price. Think it through. If you have to go back and look at it again. Get a feel for what you’d want to do the job and then add 10%. Sometimes on jobs that have lots of panes I don’t bother counting them. I just look at it and decide what I think it’s worth. Kinda try to get a gut feel for what a job is worth. It’s the trick of the trade.

Fast Fanner,
I understand about your remark to charge by gut feeling for your job. I’d assume you have been cleaning windows for a long time? I also have charged for some of our work by the same method. That is until I found I was leaving a lot on the table. Once id dedicated myself to learning the real cost of things, a lot changed. If there are no problems and everything is as the estimate says, we never loose money or leave any on the table. I wish I had every penny I missed over the years today. I believe we would be better off.

Yeah I’ve cleaned a pane or two. I guess I should have been more clear about charging. I always look at a job and gather a price in my head first but if I’m even a little on the fence, I will count them, try to cross reference your gut with your per window price. If they are similar you’re getting it. If they’re way off in one direction or another, it takes a second look. On a job with thousands of panes it may take and hour or more to really get a good idea of what a price should be. I always add 10% to everything after I figure a price. Hope that helps! Let us know what you decide.