My question to all you professionals, is anyone sealing windows as an add on? Currently im offering this service to all customers in general, however i find the only one’s biting on this are salons and jewelry stores. First thing you should know, im using EnviCoat only. It came with Jeff Flint’s Mr Hard Water Deluxe and why fix something that isn’t broken right? In all I’ve only sealed a few entire stores to date. Extra cash is nice as you know. Some salon owners want their mirrors done, front doors and display cases for various products. Jewelry store owners want all display cases done to help limit scratching when keys or rings touch glass. I will usually put 2 coats down for extra protection. So im hoping to hear from you guys on the following.
What kind of sealer is best?
Anyone doing this on homes, storefronts or buildings?
What are you charging for this add on service, or per square foot?
Whats your method for applying sealer?
Hopefully we can get some great answers on this.
Wow not one person commented on this. Well perhaps no one is doing this or some have tried but gave up. I find its rather simple to explain this to customers. Sealing one piece of glass generally takes between 3-5 minutes to seal. Once dry cleaning off haze takes 1 minute tops. My prices vary but here are some examples.
$2-3 dollars per square foot is about what i charge. 5 by 5 foot window 25 square feet just 1 $50.00. Three or more price comes down. Mirrors inside store price stays at $3.00 per Square foot, display cases inside jewelry store $3.00 as well. Was hoping someone would share here could use some advice on best sealers.
Hmm, when you say sealers, is this the same product used to coat shower glass to protect from water stain buildup?
I have 2 products in front of me claiming to do this. I tested one on my own shower but couldn’t see the difference after a month. This product is specifically for showers. Couldn’t honestly sell a service to any of my customers with this product from what I’ve seen.
The other I haven’t tried yet, seems to be more in line with what you are discussing as it mentions counter tops and mirrors. Looks like it’s made in the US too - Bring It On is the name. Haven’t had a chance to try it but sounds like you still have to re-apply once a month which is a deal killer I’d imagine for a lot of clients.
I’m very interested in hearing what others have to say on this topic.
I have had residential customers who must have had sealed glass: only the windows on the ocean-side are hydrophobic and there are no hard water stains on them. They had some hard water stains last year that I removed (from sprinkler system) on the other side of the house so that makes me think the ocean side one’s were treated.
I definitely think it adds value to do preventative maintenance services like that to prevent future staining.
@woodland Does the envicoat make the glass hydrophibic, though?
I don’t know how many storefronts would shell out for it, though, as many in the retail business are skating by with thin profit margins. Shops with high-end merch. like jewelry stores might, as well as shops near the ocean, or who get sprinkler overspray on them frequently.
Must be a slow day, woodland, I’m sure a lot of guys on here are sealing glass. Forum search it.
Are you and any other users of the shower, squeegeeing off the glass when you get done in the shower? If you are not, that explains why you are not seeing a difference. When I do a shower restore with a sealing, I give my clients a Libman squeegee made for showers. Costs me a couple of bucks at a big box store.
Gotta squeegee off the glass when you are done showering.
On house glass, I only suggest sealing when there are hard water issues. Otherwise people see it as just trying to inflate your ticket with no real benefit (and I believe that to be correct.)
Great advice!
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Envicoat is hydrophbic. It protects glass by keeping surfaces cleaner longer. Best thing about it, wont chip, crack, peel or discolor. Envicoat is a highly advanced siliconized polymer compound. Can be used on the following.
Interior/exterior glass
All glass surfaces, mirrors, non-ferrous metals, porcelain, fiberglass, non-vitreous tiles, most plastic materials.
Can also be used on natural stone surfaces.
Envicoat is chemically compatible with nearly all anodized, siliconized, epoxy enamel, polyurethane and fluoropolymer coaatings.
8oz $35.00 covers 200 sq. ft.
16 oz $69.00 covers 500 sq. ft.
1/2 $149-$160 covers over 1000 sq. ft. 1500 sq. ft. if sprayed
Google Envicoat Glass Sealer. Think the products you have are nothing like this.
Professional grade
It seems like a great product, but you wouldn’t want to use it on glass that doesn’t need extra protection, right?
Hydrophobic glass is harder to clean, so why create more work if it’s not to correct a problem (like sprinkler spray, building runn-off, ocean spray ect) ?
If I were to get into any type of glass sealing, it would probably be for shower enclosures. There’s one system that uses a UV lamp to ‘bake’ the coating onto the glass- it’s supposed to last several years or more.
Thats probably correct, im no expert. According to Jeff Flint all glass can be sealed. But why would someone want to seal brand new windows or older one’s that don’t need it. Manufacturers give each piece of glass the standard 10 year shelf life. What they don’t tell customers, window cleaning maintenance falls on them. Guess if your trying to offer this service its all about extra protection. Envicoat can last for 2-3 years in ideal conditions, little sun, not much water etc. Now if its inside homes or stores it can last much longer. Just like you we face large snow storms 1-3 each year. Local, state or private plows kick asphalt, rocks, rock salt etc on many storefront windows. Evicoat can help place a barrier between glass and debris which could help in many ways. Nothing will be embedded in glass so washing windows will be easier. Pricey
lettering lower down will also be sealed. Seen this in action. Envicoat will not harm lettering, not according to J Flint and other’s I’ve spoken with. Table tops such as kitchen table tops, dining room table tops will not suffer staining or water marks left behind from food, drinks etc. I use this often and really love the end results. Water just falls of shower doors like its being sucked off. For those of you doing shower enclosures i highly revommend adding this on. Contact your local glass shop and inform them you seal shower doors. Many customers would gladly shell out $100.00 plus to protect their glass from Hard Water Stains/soap scum build up. Its nothing but a ticking time bomb. Its not if it will happen but when. Glass will need to be sealed again once water beading effect ceases to exist. Could be every 6 months to one year. Removing Hard water stains from shower door is easy however if homeowners have used harsh chemicals glass will probably be etched. This cannot be removed with glass polishing. You can make it better but it will not be restored to its original look. Sealing will prevent further damage. Im hoping people try this so we can learn together. In ten years from now some new guys will be getting lots of information not available today.
Wow now thats some good news. If it works and lasts several years it would have to be priced correctly. With no need for yearly maintenance you’ll want to charge double without question.
