Trouble counting windows

I still have trouble counting those windows…
I usually use the 199$ for 20 windows inside and out…
But what about the windows who has 4 pieces of glass (2 on each sides opens, 2 fix in the middle) which makes 1 big Window…
I don’t know how they are called in English sorry…

Do you still charge 10$ in/out for those too?

Because I have this client who is asking me to put a bid on the whole building below (outside only):

On the second picture you can see on the 2nd floor and 3rd floor those “4 pane windows”… do I count them as 4 windows or just 1 in my 20 windows offer?

So for this bid, I estimated it at 450$ outside only. Do you think i’m in the ball game or simply out of it? What would you charge?
I will be using my WFP system on this job for sure…

Thanks for the help…

larger french panes (or smaller regular panes) like that, that are all thruought 2 can = 1 pane

a std wcr window is really 5 units in and out - 4 pane sides and 1 screen. Might help you on places that don’t have “regular” windows

so, if I follow that 2 french panes = 1 window, how much would you charge for that job then?

How many windows did you count?

With a quick rundown and not double checking it, I came up with 61 windows and doors, because of the multiple window sets and then the singles that each required ladder movements (if nose to glass). IF the dividers are on the exterior then I would bid it closer to $10 per window for exterior only, with a WFP you can handle them faster so your number could work (if your happy with it), its a couple hundred lower than mine would be.

I have used this formula for the past 12 years and it works extremely well. I can recite it like our national anthem I have said it so many times…

[I]2 panes of glass equals 1 window. The exception is something larger like a sliding glass door, that we would count as one window each. If you happen to have 3 panes of glass right next to each other we would count that as 1.5 windows.[/I]

From what I can se about your picture those 4 pieces of glass would be 2 windows… assuming you use the above formula.

I come up with $450 outside.

So following that equation, I get 640$ for the building… If find it a little bit pricey for exterior only :S I think i’ll try at 500$, considering they could bring me more blocks like this one… and explain them that is a 640$ value job…

Do you guys take in account the height of the windows in your calculations? Before I new your ways of calculating i was counting like this:

1st floor = 10$ in/out, 2nd floor = 15$ in/ out, 3rd floor = 25$ in/out

Bottom line, it’s your business and if it works for you fine. I think adding a little for 3rd story ladder or pole work is a good idea.

I use the method Chris described.

[MENTION=1]Chris[/MENTION]
do you charge less for a window that has only one pane, say for instance a single piece casement?

I believe he counts 2 single piece casements that are together as 1 window. If there are 3 single piece casements together, then that is where this phrase would apply: “If you happen to have 3 panes of glass right next to each other we would count that as 1.5 windows.​”

@michaelmole
yeah- thats what how I understood it. I was just wondering about when you have a one piece casement all alone- its not counted as half a window, is it?

I count as 1

So finally we agreed on 420$ outside only… but twice a year…
And if they like the job (which they will), they will refer me to their neighbors, because in that area, good workers spreads fast…
In that neighborhood, there is about 100 of these blocks…

So let me dream for a second…
420$ x 2 a year = 840$ / block x 100 = 840 000$ !!! Ahhhh… That would be awesome… I know that is 100% success rate is not real but still… it is fun to imagine that…