Want to lose your butt...do Groupon!

I did it.

Warrens Window Cleaning Deal of the Day | Groupon Ottawa

Hard work and long hours but it turned out alright.

I got 3 cheques 5,30,60 days for just under $1400 each.

A lot of really cheap customers but you take the good with the bad, suck it up and clean their 20 exterior 2nd floor windows only. I admit I would cheap out on quality if the customer was cheap - thats not the repeat customer I want.

The good customers were amazing though! Around 50% of them tipped - and tipped a lot sometimes. They were amazed at their clean windows. I would give them 3 or 4 business cards and say the best thanks you can give me is a referral! The majority of the time the upsell would still let me make a decent hourly. And you can be sure I will be giving almost all of them a call in the spring for a full price cleaning!

It did waste a lot of my time that could have been spent with marketing and full paying customers. But realistically its not that easy to get a consistent stream of customers.

So, you’ve done 175 jobs since July 11?

We also had many full paying customers since then too - have only served around 120 of the groupon’s the rest have yet to call.

I started in April from scratch - now I have a client base to work with and a ton of experience and 3 trained employees.

I can see how you veterans think its a terrible idea, but for the start up business I think its alright.

Did you make any money? With a low base price and 3 employees…

For the most part I worked with only one employee at a time, although we did do 3 people 6 houses a day. Anyways I basically made $24 every coupon and I would average upsell around $30 - a lot of the times it was just exterior cleaning.

Anyways I averaged around $20 an hour net (what i paid myself) while working with one employee. And for referral jobs and neighbors I averaged upwards of $50. Lately the referal phone calls have been pouring in! Although a lot of them are saying they want the same deal! I tell them not to worry, let me put a yard sign on your lawn and I will give you a 25% discount.

Yipee, Groupon brings you more customers who didn’t get the groupon deal. Now you’ll make some bank.:smiley:

DOH! Nevermind, it’s just the cheap friends of the Groupon clients who also don’t think your service is worth paying 100% for. :mad:

I wouldn’t ever do Groupon, but I’ll say this. If you’ve got no other jobs to do, little confidence that you’ll land work by beating the pavement and offering free estimates at 100% what you feel your work is worth, and no problem working for way less than other window cleaning business owners are, for possibly months… It’s your business, do what you want. :stuck_out_tongue:

But if [COLOR=“red”]YOU[/COLOR] don’t feel your services are worth what you charge, you might just be better off doing some other job. And if you do feel they’re worth more than what Groupon wants to pay you per job (25%), don’t sell out, Hustle and get work yourself at 100% of your current rate. Lowering your prices doesn’t just hurt your reputation as a business (think of fast food, “It’s cheap”, do you want to be the fast-food window cleaner?), but it emboldens people (who already expect to get something for nothing) to feel like you owe them, like they’re doing you a favor by calling you.
I’ve read a ton of Kevin Dubrosky’s blog on WindowCleaningBusinessCoach.com, and I’m currently reading $600/hr. I don’t have permission to speak for him, but what I think is getting misconstrued about his ideas on marketing and pricing is this: Because he says “charge more and offer more value”, some people are only hearing “charge more” and think he’s encouraging people to just raise prices for no reason and offer no other services than you did before, just basically “rip people off”. But what I’ve understood from what I’ve read thus far is this… Window cleaning is a luxury service, just like plumbing, just like massage, just like plastic surgery. They’re not NECESSARY for life, they are a LUXURY! So, you can price your service at whatever you want, add any and all valuable services to the window cleaning and charge more. For instance you can bring roses and chocolates to every job, leave a $20 starbucks gift card with every invoice, and offer to give each client that commits to quarterly window cleanings a free massage and facial per year. Those extra services may cost you $150 per year, but you can charge $100 more than you would have for that house per cleaning(quarterly means 4 cleanings), and after your $150 expense you made another $250 from that client per year, and they won’t care because of how NICE it is to have you supply them the roses, chocolate, coffee, massage and facial. It says to your client: “I don’t just see you as an ATM, but a person who has feelings and likes nice things. I like giving those things to you, getting to be YOUR WINDOW CLEANER and want to continue to enjoy this relationship together”.
It could also just be adding track cleaning, sills, frames, screen sealant, whatever you want to offer and then charge more for it. You’re building in value for the client, so they don’t have to worry about those things not getting done.
Thank you for allowing me to go on my tangent.

And YES, I know someone’s going to say “Plumbing is a luxury?”. Yes, it is. It’s not necessary for life. People lived without it for a long time.:wink:

Plumbing is a luxury?

There it is… thank you larry.

im glad i had glanced at this thread as a Groupon rep phoned me the other day-so i was on high alert ! listening to his spiel i knew it wasnt for me, but if i was a new starter,sitting at home waiting for the phone to ring ,it sounded a good way to springboard into action !
he then wanted to know if any of my workers would be interested , then wanted me to give him my competitors names/numbers , but i didnt and the call ended .