What are talking about ? Iāve bought a WFP.
Iāve adapted to evolution. The WFP is a game changer. No Ifās Andās or Butās about it.
No its an accurate statement from all the FB posts and mods and what not, if you can make this squeegee work TBH it is a game changer, no detailing⦠but saying that some people donāt even bother to detail.
Before This all I would use was ettore brass, and I could by dive bombing and using more strokes get almost get a detail free window, but there was still areas which would need detailing which = time which is a productivity loss.
When Iām done cleaning a window thereās hardly any detailing needed to be done.
So I have 3 -5 seconds of detailing on each Window. On a 50 window house thatās 150-250 seconds more added to my job, so if those seconds are a game changer to you so be it.
Iām not expelling energy detailing like I expel by breaking ladders down , setting them up , going up , and down ladders, so to me a WFP is a game changer. It not only saves me time it saves me energy.
A 8 GPM compared to a 4GPM power washer is a game changer. No need for me to even have to explain that.
Any one can learn how to use this thing it just takes time. Just like a regular squeegee takes time to learn how to be used properly.
It is and youāre mad you canāt use it. Which is insane. Itās not hard. Btw there is no way you only spend as long as you do detailing, itās obviously longer and your ego is screaming and coping when you say it barely takes extra energy. Youāre disingenuous and coping.
WFP is good for regular cleans only or extremely high work, otherwise me and my liquidator and fliq does better in both time and quality. No ladders (there are exceptions) and no detailing (NO exceptions but keep pretending that isnāt a game changer)
Also, I donāt have to set up or buy filters, set up hosing, worry about the āpure water thingā I work out of a sedan just plop my fliq liq combo on my xero pole and Iām blitzing. No hate, just facts. Thatās more of a game changer than what you tout. I have noticed no one that hates the āliquid thingā can even use it properly while claiming to be a know it all. You can prefer not to use it, fine, but the haters, every single one of them comes across as an egotistical butthurt noob. Ironically most of them are seasoned pros, supposedly.
No!! WFP isnāt just good for regular cleans. Your percent wrong . If the liquid thing can clean it the WFP can clean It too. You have no clue what your talking about. Yes ! it canāt take paint or silicone off , but neither can the liquid thing. So the liquid thing doesnāt do better in quality. Lol
How you cleaning those sills and frames your getting your dirty water on. Let me answer your not .
As far as time your not saving any time either . Thereās no set up if you have the tank base system. Just push a button roll that hose out . To think your getting this better clean is ego . Your delusional ! You need to stop making false accusations.
Mad that I canāt use the liquid thing ? Why would I be mad. If I felt it was a game changer. I would master it and buy 10 of them
I donāt understand why you say my ego is big becuase I say it barley takes extra energy or much time to detail a window. Itās a true statement thereās no ego behind that ⦠Just facts
Not being disingenuous , there are tons of experienced window cleaners in here. Why would I lie about something thatās clearly the truth.
The liquid thing is the same as any tool. There was time when you werenāt good with it. Until you start using it every day , then you learn and master it.
I donāt understand your rant about not knowing how to use it. Anyone can understand the concept. It cleans a window without having to detail it. Iām not questioning that. I bought a Mormon liquid thing , and yes itās cleans a window with no detailing . It sits in that draw , I donāt see it as a game changer when detailing is minimal
Hereās a video of a respected window cleaner in here. Heās cleaning and detailing windows . I counted how long it took him to detail a window. I got up to 3 seconds
I think he started with the liquid thing and through it off the roof. I saw something flying after he used it.
Anyway , then he went to regular squeegee and after cleaning 3 seconds detailing , so tell me how Iām being disingenuous . Canāt believe your even going here. Donāt get it.
Oh the old Liquidator debate rages on.
I agree that it does cut down on detailing edges most of the time, I would still detail them a little even with the Liquidator on residential though. I just want the highest standard for my customers, even if it means losing 2 seconds per window.
Regarding trail lines:
If the rubber is new, cut perfectly, set perfectly and used with fresh clean water/mop, it wonāt leave trail lines when fanning. But that can be a bit to fidget with. That channel burns out the ends of the rubber a bit faster than a straight channel, which can speed up the occurrence of trail lines on the glass.
Additionally, some window cleaners just donāt notice that they are leaving trail lines. Not everyone has the same attention to detail. I gave my Liquidator channels away to 2 window cleaner friends; a long time cleaner and a newbie. You can easily guess which guy immediately noticed the trail line issue. Dunning Kruger effect for some perhaps?
I am glad some guys really, really, really like the Liquidator, they probably donāt need to defend it quite so vigorously though. (it starts to sound like a paid shill after a while)
So to the OP, and the original question about what 14ā to buy. Buy lots a channels, try them all. They are relatively inexpensive. Use what you like best.
3 seconds is just flat out bull. If you detail that fast youāre rushing the job and leaving smears. By the way Steve-O takes over 10 second around 9:55 in that vid, obviously not counting his pauses, and about 20 seconds to detail around 11:35 mark. Disingenuous counter.
I bid a three story job today with 1512 panes and even if I could magically detail them in 3 second per thatās 75 minutes saved. If you value your time thatās still worthwhile. Of course 3 seconds is ridiculous. Letās say 10 per at good speed reasonably, thatās over four hours saved on that big job.
Side note, even though Iāve learned from Steve he is the most overrated window cleaner out there. Eg 9:15 he babbles about adding soap to the mop being so time consuming, heās essentially the MLM window cleaner. Not a fan but his business tips are good usually, bad technique advice imo.
With statements like almost everything youāve said are you sure this isnāt the your work vehicle?
Do you mind posting a few detailed comparison videos of yourself cleaning windows using the Liquidator, saving time, using those aforementioned techniques, etc?
If there is something new that I can learn here, Iād like that.
Unfortunately otherwise without that, itās like saying āmy horse is faster than yoursā
If you were to shoot the other horses, we are still left wondering if itās so.
Therefore, let the horse race, TrinityMT.
Thatās a good idea and knew with my paid shill tier passion (no sarcasm I get what you meant in the other post) that would come up but you will be waiting. I plan along with many projects I am working on making videos. Will update with a new topic but donāt hold your breath. If anything thatās the only good criticism Iāve gotten so far. āmake videos and prove itā
Guys like Pro and Majestic, especially Pro resort to weird passive aggressive babble and donāt engage the argument at hand, resorting to weird defensive rambles or lame jabs with no substance. Will be waiting on a response to how detailing only takes 2 or three seconds which is a lie. End of. I got five keeds to feeds so once again donāt hold your breath on vids.
I wish that was my work vehicle. I drive a 2010 chevy cobalt what does that mean?
You want to get technical with the seconds now. Whatās it matter ? 3 ⦠5 ⦠7 even 10 seconds . It takes very little effort to detail a window.
Itās not a big time saver. Which means this tool youāre so in love with isnāt a game changer.
The average house is what 40 windows.
Letās go with the high end 10 seconds per window. You save 400 seconds , so you saved around 7 minutes. Good story bro !
I canāt even take a nap with that 7 minutes.
@ 15 seconds per window ā¦whats that about ? what 10 minutes you saved. thatās a cigarette break. Sone might like that. Me Iām not a smoker.
My whole point is that this tool is not a game changer.
The only one with the weird aggressive babble is you BTW.
Letās look over sone of your statements
You said ā window cleaners canāt adapt to evolution ā. Lol
There isnāt a window cleaner in the world that wouldnāt be able to adapt to a tool . Thatās babble
You tell me Iām mad , because I canāt use a liquid thing
Cāmon man really !!
Thatās babble
You tell me WFP is only good for regular cleans, or extremely high work , and your liquid thing does better in time and quality
That is not just babble ⦠thatās bull shit.
BTW I donāt hate the liquid thing. I just donāt see it as a game changer.
You told me I hate it. That is babble.
Squeegees are a preference tool. One guy said buy them all and try them. Heās exactly right.
Steve O is over rated. Whatās that about. Do you have a hero winow cleaner that is so called rated high ? I didnāt put that video up to claim heās my hero. I put it up to show the detailing of a window how easy it is , that it doesnāt take long to do. 3ā¦5ā¦10 seconds whatever.
Check yourself dude itās a squeegee. A Preference tool.