I can understand a double-hung with a psuedo grid, but I don’t see why you’d charge twice the going rate for double hung storms. I try to do all exterior first, as it rains at 2pm everyday, but what’s up with the double-hung-storm pricing? I generally work on older homes made in the 1800’s, and now a lot of remodels. I see why seeping can be an issue with old seals, but then I just start on the side that leaks first. I just want to know why so many window pros charge more for double-hung windows. Thanks!
Double-hungs [B][I]with [/I][/B]storms are 4 panels instead of 2. The time involved is at least twice as much, sometimes 2.5.
I’m not going to do twice the work for the same price.
Or am I misunderstanding your question?
More as opposed to…? I’m a little confused by your question? Check the price list on our site- it might make some sense as to what we charge for.
Storms generally mean twice the work, and sometimes more. Twice the glass, twice the detailing, etc…
And what do you mean by the “going rate”? If many professionals are charging twice the “going rate”, then who makes it the “going rate”? the non-professionals? I’m not trying to be a smart alec or give you a hard time, I’m genuinely curious as to what you mean.
Count me in as confused too I guess.
I prefer to clean double hungs as opposed to old wood frame windows. Generally, all the wood framers all have storms and screen frames. Bigger PIA to clean, more glass. I charge MORE to clean these situations, and about half of those I turn down because they have not been cleaned in YEARS and the aluminum frames have put and oxidization on the glass from lack of cleaning. REAL PIA to clean this stuff. Not to mention when they have those STUPID little hooks that hold storms on, and the house has settled in 10 years since the last window cleaning.
Double hungs can be cleaned with pole work or simple ladder work outside, as opposed to taking all the storms off the inside first or unlatching them from the frames and bringing them down.
Double hungs are actually CHEAPER for my pricing.
Yep, this is why I don’t clean storms.
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I guess I don’t quite understand what a storm is. I’ve run into a situation where there was a middle pane on a horizontally sliding window that was inaccessible. My co-worker told me it was an old busted storm. I’ve also cleaned newer windows with a grid between two panes of glass. Is that a storm? The older homes with wooden framed Georgian windows I can see charging more for as you’re cleaning so many panes on one window. Maybe I’ve yet to see a double hung storm.
One of these, outside of a wood frame or double hung window.
You need to change your name before I sue you :).
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Why? Because I went to Ohio State?
Thanks for the replies to a question that may seem rudimentary and googled/youtubed it, but I’ve yet to come across those windows. I’ll see how it all pans out once I start running across them. Still new to residential at 3 months in. Thanks for the help.
Just busting balls man.
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You don’t see storm windows out west very often. I used to clean in the Seattle area and never once came across them. The weather isn’t as severe and mostly not needed. Another factor is the preference in the Western United States for newer homes. A lot of the older houses are neglected.
In the East Coast there is much more interest in preserving older homes so there are plenty of older houses with true divided windows and triple track storms in good condition.
I’ve enjoyed working on these since using the combination of good restoration chemicals like one-restore and the use of a wfp. I will turn down jobs with glazing that is cracked and/or falling out.
Replacing the glazing, and taking the old out is really not all that bad. But, I don’t know if a home owner really would pay our going rate or more, to do that kind of work.
But many people tend to neglect it until the panes of glass are about to fall out, in my experience.
I need to find a reputable company to recommend if the homeowner needs re-glazing. I would think that painting companies are usually the ones who do that sort of work, am I correct?
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Yes but most don’t bother to do it correctly, we had a guy that worked for us that is now out on his own(more glass repair/replacement than cleaning) I believe he’s a Wcra member Mike Higgins. I know he’s done a bit of re glazing.
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In my area, you would see general contractors or handymen doing that type of work. Painters here, just generally paint.
C’mon man, I’m just trying to figure this out. I watched a video of a guy folding ‘double-hung “storm” windows"’ in and clean both sides in a minute. The only ones I’ve run into have been in one home where there was a messed up third pane that was inaccessible due to some broken old fixture thing. I can see charging more for the 3 pane weirdness, but otherwise, I price them the same as the new windows I can pull out from the inside.
Here is how it happened. In like 1960, some idiot drove all over New England, NY and NJ and sold crappy aluminum frame single pane windows to homeowners who already had windows in their homes. He convinced them that a bad storm was coming and they needed to be ready. Then that same idiot convinced the poor homeowner to let him screw this new fangled safety device on top of the perfectly good windows already there. Then he laughed all the way to the bank! Fortunately for you, while installing a set one day, the window slammed shut on his hands and he was no longer able to install any, and that is why they are only on the east coast.
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