I do know for a fact that the base solution for Window Gang wax is glass gleam 3. I was given this information directly by Titan Labs. Whether or not they add anything to it after they get it from Titan I don’t know.
Kinda curious why he was only at Window Gang for two weeks?
He said that the drive from his home to their office each day turned out to be much longer than he had anticipated.
I understand using the wash and wax, on cars but not on windows. The process is completely different.
I didn’t say it was my best idea. But my thinking was that the wash and wax formula works on the painted surface as well as the glass on the trucks cleaning bugs and other dirt, so why not try it on windows. Tried it on my house and one account. Didn’t do bad, just didn’t do any better. I am not recommending it, just saying the window gang may be using something like that.
You could one-up them and service the nicely waxed windows monthly with an orbital buffer. Guaranteed the outshine the neighbors!
I wasn’t criticizing you; you tested it and it didn’t work. Window Gang, on the other hand is a large franchise and they are still promoting it. Lol, Dan that’s funny right there
Not to mention detailing would be a nightmare, and you’d be coated up to your elbows in Turtle Wax by the end of the day. I call shenanigans.
Could they have been using a simple wash and wax carwash formula in their water? Thats the only thing I could think of.
As I stated before, they are definitely using Glass Gleam 3. I don’t know if they add anything to it before shipping it to their franchisees
I would like to see the proof or the study or testing from their website that says it’s proven.
When those wash and wax products first came out in the early 90’s I thought I had something to promote!
When I tried it on my home windows:
it was difficult to work with, no slip with the squeegee
it made the glass hydrophic and very difficult to squeegee next time, you know it would mess it up for water pole
It was very hard to squeegee over the glass, it increased the drag, even with more ‘slippy’ stuff added, there was signifigant squeegee chatter (and the usual marks left behind form chatter)
it did not stay clean longer, but actually got dirtier faster
it got dirtier faster by a white film developing over time, which wasn’t really noticeable until rain drops hit it, or you touch up or put a strip washer to the glass
they got just as dirty with regular dirt as any other window
and I was stuck with hydrophobic glass
marketing is perception and promotion not necessarily absolute accuracy
it could be that their studies refer to the seconds after the glass is cleaned but not an “A” “B” comparison over 2 years
or it could be that the test was in a lab with glass at a 45 degree angle or something and something was poured on it (like those shuffleboard tiny tiny beads) and the waxed one they all went off but some (at least one) stuck on the other.
It’s gonna come down to what exactly their “proof” was based on and how they proved it
but wash n wax products are a mess, stay away from them
How about a Polymer Sealant? I am going to be doing a study on a window with a automotive grade paint sealant that is applied and evaporates almost like rubbing alcohol. I am going to do a test on my house with two windows side by side. One with the sealant and the other without. I use it on vehicle details on the glass and rubber/plastic trim and it works great on those. I figured it would help keep hard water spots off the windows and market towards that, not so much towards keeping them clean for longer periods of time.
What do you guys think? I will update this thread with more info in about 2 or 3 weeks once I give it a try and post results after a few more weeks or months. The method to applying it is very simple and leaves no streaking if done correctly.
This thread is about window gang “wash-wax” formula, not about glass sealing. I would recommend you start a new topic. Sounds cool, though, let us know how it turns out.
Oh I’m sorry, it’s an actual companies service your talking about. I thought you guys were talking about a wax or sealant for windows in general. I will be sure to start a new thread in a day or two about this…
The only way I have truly found to add a wax finish is to actually wax the window with a carnuba
So, I’m resurrecting this thread because I got a message today from a lady we did an estimate for asking if we wash and wax the windows like some other companies do. She said they use a wax that keeps the windows clean longer. I had never heard of this, and I’ve been around the industry my whole life. The information in this thread was great, but I’m wondering if anyone besides Window Gang is offering this. Also, has anyone had this question recently?
So I am going to re resurrect this thread, as of late I have encountered a bunch of glass that was treated with rain X, one was a car yard that I had to reclean about 20 panes to glass due to the rain X treatment applied to the glass after I already WFP it all on Saturday.
I am told in my area a few years ago a WC company offered it as a wash and wax service and charged a ton more to apply it like it was sealing the glass, but not the right way.
I have since re-evaluated my monthly quote for the car yard as I don’t clean things more than once unless its being paid for.
there is a company in canada that uses DI and claims that it not pnly cleans the glass but also sensitizes it so it repels dirt. they were doing my neighbours house and then gave me their pitch
Its snake oil spiel lol, you really don’t ever want rain X on glass other than a windscreen, Nano coating are the way to go, but that being said saying that it repels dirt is false and coating every window is just woefully unnecessary.
Only windows exposed to repeated and continuous exposure to sprinklers or fountain or sea water or a shower should be coated, the majority of sealing products out there make the glass hydrophobic, which making future cleans take longer if you WFP.
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Homeowners pay good money to have their windows cleaned. And when this is done professionally they are very happy. Nanocoatings like Nanovations NG1010 are really necessary after the glass has been polished with cerium oxide to remove hard water deposits or has had scratches removed by a similar procedure. Or. If the window is being constantly hit with water and heat. Otherwise, just clean it, get paid, and go home.
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