[MENTION=5063]HE MAN[/MENTION] - very nice tutorial. The squirt bottle is a great idea.
Love your videos He-man
Make note, HE MAN’S wearing rubber gloves (not to prevent dish pan hands) BUT because the product contains [SIZE=3][COLOR=#ff0000]Hydrochloric Acid [/COLOR][/SIZE][FONT=serif]
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SECTION: 2 HAZARDOUS INGREDIENTS
CHEMICAL NAME OSHA/PEL ACGIH/TLV CAS. NO.
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I generally just rise from the top - down / around the framing with a garden hose afterwards and then proceed to clean as usual.
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Is that the 3to1 ratio? Nice video.
Nice!
Nice tutorial Herman!
Good video Herman. I was thinking the same thing as Mr. Window. It’s is much safer to rinse the glass to dilute the chemical, which is the what the manufacturer instructs you to do. Diluting it with just a wet strip washer does not dilute it enough IMO. It’s also quicker anyway to simply rinse it down. I figure you are just doing it with the strip washer to keep it mobile so you can go around the house quickly without hassle. Another option would be to use a garden or backpack sprayer to rinse it. That way you could go around the house very quickly and easily to stay mobile. This way you get the best of both worlds.
[FONT=tahoma][SIZE=3]The mix here is already diluted it is 1/4 strength.
So a saturated scrubber rinses is ample to get it off IMO.
And yes we are doing it to go around the house quicker.
Have been doing it this way for over 4 years.
Not had any problems in the way of rinsing.
It is also great doing first cleans on older windows have a dull shine because of the age of the glass.
Bring the glass up like new.
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… Works great, but the smell lingering in the house, oye vey …
[FONT=tahoma][SIZE=3]In reference to using One Restore on shower doors.
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Even at 1/4 strength it still needs to be rinsed. These is not my opinion but the manufacturers instructions on its use. He-man keep in mind that just because you do something for years does not make it safe. When I took The IWCA safety coarse for high rise window cleaning they explained all the dangers of tying off to a stink pipe and using counter weights without a counter balance etc, along with testimonies of guys dying from. After all that there was a guy who actually stood up and argued that he has been doing it that way for years and so he will keep doing it that way. You can keep doing it that way as it does not affect me but It is not the correct application and I would highly recommend anyone using this product to rinse the glass per the manufacturers instruction. Not to mention it would be faster anyway just to rinse it.
I am all for staying mobile and your approach is innovative but just needs a little tweak to make it great and safe. I would just recommend using an electric pump backpack to rinse it. It’s just as mobile, just as fast if not faster and safer. I think it would make the procedure perfect. Again it’s not that I don’t like the idea, I like it, it just needs to add a rinse that stays in line with the goal of being fast and mobile.
[FONT=tahoma][SIZE=3]We are talking about rinsing the One Restore off the glass/windows?
Safety wise wear gloves when using One Restore outside.
Probably wise to wear some sort of eye protection as well.
Using One Restore inside if you can’t get enough ventilation in the room.
Would be good to wear a respirator as well.
In relation to applying the One Restore it would be much safer to squirt the chemicals on then spraying.
No chemicals floating in the air.
As for rinsing the diluted One Restore off even though using a saturated scrubber works .
It may rinse better and just as quick, if we use a litre squirt bottle with water .
Squirt water on squeegee off.
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Yes I agree, I would not spray the chemical either. I was talking about spraying water to rinse the chemical off. Keep in mind the chemical needs to be diluted not for handling purposes but because you don’t want to leave the chemical on the building surfaces below the window or on the ground. The acid in the chemical will remain active even with rinsing. That’s the reason for rinsing, because even though it does not neutralize the chemical it at least dilutes it, lessening the impact on the substrate and ground underneath the window. When Rinsing it is recommended that you start from the bottom up not bottom down. Bottom up will push the chemical at the bottom off the surface undiluted.
One Restore is not a cleaner as in say dish soap or window cleaning soap. It is a different type of “cleaner”. It contains acids. It is important to understand the context of Eaco Chems use of the term “cleaner”. They develop chemicals for building restoration using chemical application. Safe Restore is not classified as a household cleaner or window cleaning “soap”. This is an important distinction. It needs to be used according to it’s contextual development.
I like your innovativeness (not sure thats a word but we’ll role with it) to make the process efficient, so I am not trying to discourage you, just trying to help perfect the ideas. I like your thought process on using a squirt bottle to rinse but I’m not sure if it would hold enough volume to dilute it properly. I think the best thing is to contact Eaco Chem and tell them what your application is and your ideas for use and see if they recommend they process. They could tell you how much it needs to be diluted. Thats where I would start.
[FONT=tahoma][SIZE=3]So we are already using diluted One Restore At 1/4 strength 3/4 water.
This is the mix we use because it works best in most situations.
At this strength it rinses quickly without using a lot of water.
One Restore is a detergent you can use it as a cleaner using the right dilution.
This is what the manufactures say in regards to diluting One Restore.
Dilution
Use undiluted (straight) for most applications.
Note: Diluting can be done, follow the pre-testing process to
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[FONT=tahoma][SIZE=3]When you are using One Restore on windows.
What strength do you use?
How do you applie it on the glass?
How do you rinse it off?
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OneRestore wars!!!
I dilute it 1000 to 1 and use it to brush my teeth.
I generally don’t use One restore because it does not do as goof of a job as CC550. Most of the water spots here contain silicate. The only way to remove silicate from the glass is to abrade it off or use hydrofluoric Acid, which is in CC550. I have used One restore in the past but it did not cut the mustard. It removes magnesium and calcium but does not remove the silicate deposits. I have gone back and forth on using CC550 or a polish and have not settled on either method. If I was using it I would rinse it thoroughly according to the manufacturers recomendations.
As I said before even though the manufacturer calls it a detergent or cleaner they are using those terms in the context of building restoration. So you can’t think ok it’s just a cleaner or detergent, so I can just use it like Tide or dish soap. But it is not a cleaner in the same way these cleaners are because it contains hydrochloric acid that needs to be strongly diluted. It is a cleaner because it can be used to clean building surfaces but while using it to clean it is still a surface restoration agent. Household cleaners and soaps are only cleaners not restoration agents. You can use it to clean but safety preparations and applications need to be used because you are using a restoration chemical to clean with. On there website under limitations it states[FONT=Arial, sans-serif][SIZE=2][COLOR=#000000]:
[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial][SIZE=3]Rinse qu[/SIZE][SIZE=3]ickly[/SIZE] when on glass and anodized aluminum.[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial]Do not use on polished marble and metallic oxide film used for tinting or self cleaning glass.[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial]Not suitable for certain low-fire tiles when using an extended dwell time (always pre-test small area first).
Do not allow product to dry on surface. [SIZE=3]Rinse thoroughly.[/SIZE]
Not recommended for restoration of antique glass, brass, copper or bronze.
Under preparation it states:
General Preparation
Protect adjacent and surrounding surfaces from exposure to the cleaning solution. Cover landscape with polyethylene or other proven protective material. Wetting down foliage with water before and after the cleaning process can be an option.
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[FONT=tahoma][SIZE=3]Have you tried the way that is shown in the video?
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Try it then you can come and tell me why it does or does not work.[/U][/SIZE][/SIZE][/FONT]