Aliens and Little Green Men

These are interesting articles, thanks.

Dawn.

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And, a Sonic Screwdriver

Another thing to consider is the universe is about 13 billion years old, most species well at least on our planet only stick around for maybe a few to tens of million years, its quite possible that countless alien civilizations have risen and fallen when we were still swimming around in the primordial soup.

That is where even if there are countless alien civilizations if they don’t have intersecting timelines then they would never know each other existed, and as a species we are far too young technologically to to even think that a yes or no answer would be nothing more than a wild guess.

Look back 200 years our life is science fiction to those back then, I’m sure in another 200 years if we make it that far we will know for sure

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Of course life exists outside of Earth.

If you believe it is possible for life to erupt spontaneously in certain conditions, then it is mathematically unlikely our little planet is the only place for that to have ever happened in the whole past, present and future history of the (perhaps infinitely) vast universe.

If you believe that our Earth and the life on it was designed and created, then the designer and creator would certainly qualify as a form of extraterrestrial life, that is, life outside of the Earth’s limited sphere.

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This is a great point. When we look into space we see light that has traveled for millions and billions of years. Because we see no evidence of life doesn’t mean life doesn’t exist somewhere else. It means it just didn’t or doesn’t exist (to the point of being advanced enough to be seen) it only means that it didn’t exist in the time it left the star system we’re viewing. This universe could be teaming with life and we and any other possible life forms may never know it until the light or sound has time to travel the vast distances of interstellar space.

Right now somewhere on Zimgadizzledort they could be using Waszleistamaza for their seceret solution. Maybe we’ll never know.

It has taken 4.5 billion years for the human race to evolve to what it is today on this Planet Earth.
Perhaps we were the first planet to evolve this far and certain unknown others are 2 or 3 million years behind us. If so then “we” are alone for at least the next several hundred thousand years.

We should all try to get along on this planet and kick ISIS’s ass off it.

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So far 82% of window cleaners believe life is out there. Lol

I’d wager that a similar percentage of window cleaners are “out there” themselves.

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It’s an interesting discussion and depends on your prepositional worldview. The discussion does remind me of CS Lewis space trilogy. Specifically “Out of the Silent Planet” just because he raises the theological implications of extraterrestrial life.

Oh, and I’m a huge fan of John Ringo’s Troy Rising books mainly because us poor technologically retarded (dictionary term, not derogatory term) humans rise up, flip the bird to the aliens, and proceed to quickly to kick alien butt. Like we do.

“I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world because they’d never expect it.” - Jack Handy

Only if you’re LDS. Then the designer and creator was once a man and therefore would qualify.

If you’re pantheistic or polytheistic, then that would qualify.

If you’re a theist, then no, God wouldn’t qualify as “extraterrestrial life.” But that’s a subject of a deep theological discussion and it helps if you have a grasp of logic, philosophy (specifically metaphysics - and not the rocks, crystals, spirit guides type of metaphysics, but the meta-physica of Aristotle), and knowing the distinction between act and potential.

If you’re Aristotelian, then the Unmoved Mover wouldn’t qualify either.

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I’m reaching for the Fridge.

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Are you sure about that? I don’t see any reason why “extraterrestrial life” must be limited to meaning “organic life in the physical universe”.

A thinking creature capable of invention and creation (spirit or otherwise) would almost certainly be called “alive”, though perhaps not in the biological sense we typically apply that word.
Any creature that exists outside the terrestrial realm of the earth is, by definition, an extraterrestrial. Even humans born on Mars would be extraterrestrials. So a creature inhabiting any place outside the earth, whether somewhere in physical space or a heavenly spirit realm, would also be an extraterrestrial.

So by that reasoning, belief in a God or Gods does qualify as belief in extraterrestrial life.

Up above in heaven could really mean from outer space came the Gods, which might explain the constellations.
I think early man needed something to believe in because there was no explanation of “how did we get here?” And too much free use of the acacia tree, frequently mentioned in the Bible, contains one of the most psychedelic substances known to man.

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It depends on how you want to define “extraterrestrial life.” If you mean “beyond earth” then sure, God would qualify. However, not in the same way as a physical or spiritual being (like angels, demons, ghosts, whatever). If you mean a being composed of act and potentiality and is changing from birth to death, then no, the theistic God is not that.

As a theist, I’d argue that God IS life (essential, immortal, immutable, infinite, necessary and sufficient ontologically) and as such can give creatures life. God has life intrinsically (God is life) whereas all other things have life.

I think modern man has lost the sense of wonder by which to examine the universe and contemplate “Who am I?” I also think modern man is so dogmatic in their religion of belief (whether hashtag science or hashtag faith) that they can’t objectively examine the universe. Hashtag science lacks a grounding in philosophy, logic, ontology, and classical metaphysics to even begin to ask the question of life, the universe and everything, much less seek an answer.

Personally, I’m always open to questioning everything. I’m an equal opportunity offender whether my Watchtower friends, LDS friends, fellow Christians, or the hashtag scientist.

Oh, and the bible also condemns “sorcery/witchcraft” which is translated from “pharmakeia” where we get our word for “pharmacy”. Drugs were an intrinsic part of a lot of pagan practices and were condemned in Levitical law.

But to get back on topics: I don’t believe in aliens for any theological reason.

I just don’t believe in them because there are so many variables necessary to support life that it seems improbable. And sure, if you get enough social justice primates banging on keyboards eventually they could produce Shakespeare. Except when it comes to amino acids, one type supports life, the other type kills life. So if every other key on those keyboards kills a social justice primate how far could they get?

Humm, I propose an experiment…

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I like that experiment idea. Lol. Although I believe there is life out there somewhere. Let’s hope.

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A slight stretch.

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But proof none the less

For the sake of pedantry, that’s how the dictionary defines it.

More on topic, I do not believe in little green men.