As long as we’re learning from those failures and adjusting logically.
You cannot measure a man by his failures. You must know what use he makes of them. What did they mean to him. What did he get out of them. ~ Orison Swett Marden
Oh, and we’d better learn from successes, as well.
Touche:)
Them boys from Oklahoma roll their joints all wrong
They’re too damn skinny or way too long
I ain’t no holy roller so I just use a bong
Them boys from Oklahoma roll their joints all wrong
I don’t think you’re getting the point. When I was an intern at a real estate investors office she ran commercials on TV. We found that running the commercials between 10am and 1pm gave us almost a 70% increase in return ratio. WHY…because people going into foreclosure usually lost their job or handle a major medical issue or something that disables them not to work, the majority of the time. SO they are watching TV most ,“IN OUR AREA”, and respond BEST in those times…we ran from 2pm-5pm with not really as much success as from 10am to noon.
I said all that to say, timing is every thing… YES knock on a lot of doors, numbers numbers numbers! BUT there will be, according to your area, be a time frame when your success will increase more then others. If you don’t agree with that, it’s ok…then why send fliers out for spring cleaning when springs coming up??? because you’re marketing in a certain time frame to increase sales! I think it’s ignorant to believe you will receive the same close ratio at any time of time based on your demograph…that’s why i asked the question about what have other people found works best as far as time goes?
[I]You can’t always get what ya want[/I]
The Rolling Stones
Yes you Can!
Chris
Is a Sörbo announcement forthcoming?!?
No because I no longer WANT that.
There is alot of truth to that guys, he’s not just saying it.
I believe that you don’t always get what you want however we almost always get what we EXPECT.
My father and stepfather both worked in Television. My dad was the GM and National Sales Manager for the local Fox affiliate.
I understand your belief is based on your experience, and my belief is based upon mine. Not only mine but the experience of everyone in my family who are in sales and I grew up listening to. (My mom sold Advertising for several years too)
Television and Door to Door are two completely different animals.
Time of day… or time of week.
Some days are better than others. I don’t care where you are. The science to door to door is the same. I say this because I traveled alot selling steaks door to door for a year or three. So I speak of experience… not conjecture.
My success with that company and why they made me a Trainer/SalesManager is because I targeted the $300,000 and up home. Kind of like what I do now.
You know…
A lot of executives housewives hanging around the house starving for companionship with loose purse strings.
A lot of people that office out of the home.
A lot of medical professionals you never know when you can catch.
A lot of retired folks who made good and have disposable income, yet don’t want to climb on a ladder.
Of course… I don’t know…
that probably doesn’t sound anything like your demographic.:rolleyes:
Sheeeeiiiit…
I can roll one handed…
That’s the way we roll in Oklie homie. 
i have found in my experience the less said the better. sometimes it is better just to knock introduce yourself and leave them w/ some information about your company…a brochure or flyer and if you have something w/ your company name and logo, like pencils, keychains, notepads, etc. i don’t do much d2d or cold calling but in the past this has worked for me.
Maybe you’re correct in saying knocking at noon - 3 receives a better reception, on the contrary however there is sure to be more people at home after 5 than before 5…its wastes time to be going d2d before 5 to find that only 1 in 5 houses have people at home as apposed to knocking after 5 and finding that 4 out of 5 people are home answering there doors as they are home from work and not absent due to work.
for each house that does not open its doors there is a lost opportunity as it is unlikely that you will be able to call back to the same housing area again within the next year for fear of knocking on doors where you were once rejected and establishing a name that implies being pushy and arrogant…
i find that you can be persistant with storefronts and call back week after week if required but it is unfair to keep bombarding a residential development with repeat cold calling…people recognise your face and will remember what seems to them as rudeness.
also i once read somewhere that after 6 or so a customers brain is tired and so are more likely not to think over a purchase and will impulse buy.without considering whether they really need the service or good.
then again you are right they could possibly be cranky also from a long days work. but i could add that who’s to know what position the person behind the door is in…you can’t think like that. all they can say is “NO”. no skin off your back.
oh and by the way i always have a fear of knocking on a door to find that the occupier is a fellow window cleaner…there is always something terrifying about that
Take him outside and break his legs. End of story.
and break his hands so he can’t clean windows:D
Invite him out for coffee and pick his brain. If you make a friend then you can develop a good source of refferal work. I never view any other wcer as competition (just too much glass out there for one guy) but rather as an untapped source for more work.
When I was first starting I handed out a flier at a Window Cleaners house… He chased me down and critiqued my flier… then made me feel silly.
But I agree with Tony… take him out and become friends.
I agree, I don’t even feel threatened by the local wcers on this forum. We have exhanged great ideas.
However, the average window cleaner on the street, I find, is usually pricing their jobs too low, too sloppy looking, using worn out tools, or doesn’t look at the big picture.
There are few really great local window cleaners that inspire me, the exception being the ones I find here, Eric from North Bay, Kevin from Paneless, John Riley, and Mark from Beautiful View. I have learned a lot from them…
The average Joe Window Cleaner, not so much. Mind you I haven’t canvassed residential door to door (except for one half day) so I can’t say the quality of the window cleaners I have found at houses.
That’s more so the reason why i would not like to meet a window cleaner on the job, sure if he is sound that’s fine i can get along with him, but he might not be happy with competition and i don’t need hassle from him when carrying out work.
by the way i don’t agree with people who detest competition, competition is the driving key to success
