How to use scrim!

I see scrim is pretty new in the usa, here in the uk we have been using it for years so here is the correct way to get the best out of scrim!

HOW TO USE SCRIM

The endless comparisons between scrim and microfibre continue to rumble on, with no sign of a conclusion.

One thing which strikes me, though, is that very few people seem to know how to use scrim. Time and again I see references to using “20 or more a day” (well, perhaps not quite that many!). I have been using scrim for 10 years, and rarely possess more than one or two at a time, and NEVER use more than one on any single day.

If you use a scrim for “detailing” edges of squeegeed glass, and for polishing small panes/leaded glass etc.(otherwise known as “ragging”) then you will not need more than one a day. Mopping sills, wiping excess water off frames before squeegeeing, wiping your squeegee blade should all be done with a separate “wet” or “sill” cloth, which you wring out regularly. Doing it this way you will only ever need to carry two cloths with you.

Before using a scrim it needs to be washed out, then wrung out to just the right “dampness” content. To achieve this take hold of opposite corners of the scrim, stretch it out and then “spin” it into a rope. Put the two ends together to halve its length, then the same again. The scrim can now be twisted very tightly, leaving no loose fibres within itself to retain water. As you wring it as tightly as you can, water will firstly run, then drip off the scrim. When you can no longer make water drip, you will see that there is still loose water rising to the surface of the scrim when you really twist hard. Holding the scrim tightly to prevent the surface water retreating back into the fabric, “throw” the water off by bringing the scrim down sharply towards the ground, then stopping dead. You will see water being shaken off the scrim onto the ground. You will create a sizeable puddle from what you had thought to be a well wrung scrim!

Unravelling the scrim can be difficult after this treatment, and this is why “old school” w/c’s crack them like a whip. One good crack and the scrim will unravel easily. The scrim is now in perfect condition to polish, detail - even clean your glasses! During the day the scrim will tend to dry out (NOT get wet!!!) and you will need to dunk it in your bucket and repeat as above.

GOLDEN RULE: Scrim is for polishing, sill cloth for wet wiping - don’t mix them up!!

Ps this comes from a uk forum member! hope you guys find this useful!

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They’re great. I’ve been using them for years myself. Thanks to Mr Robinson for sending me my first one and an even bigger thanks to him for helping me to fight the urge to cut it in half. Wouldn’t have been nearly as useful if I did. I realize that now.

Hey James,

Great Thread, I use mine damp ! I’ve only been using the scrim for a little less then a year but I loving it and ! Say have you ever used a natural Sea-sponge ? I think you should try it out it works much better then a rag to wipe up water or sills or wiping you squeegee off !

Say I’d like to share a couple videos I made about the scrim !

What I do now is after I ring it out I wrap it in a dry scrim and within 10 minutes or less it gets to a superb dampness !

Try the sponge-give it a test ! You’ll like I bet…

Dr. Dange

Plus James I have had mine cut in half and it works great that way no different then a huck ! Still I use them full size and cut they bought work great !

//youtu.be/kKqlTkERXsc

//youtu.be/Sahpala5T1Q

It still amazes me that people don’t use a sponge for sills and to wipe their squeegee… but whatever works.
(I have a guy who does the same, so I’m not judging)

  • I just picked up my first scrim (thanks John Lee,) so I appreciate the post.

did you not want to cut up that nice new scrim lol

good videos dave!

Thanks James, I’m glad to share them with you…Keep posting new threads on your knowledge and processes, because you and John/PetePete are a great addition here !

Dave/Your new Friend

Hey Guys,
I cut my scrim in half. It’s just like an old huck towel but on steroids. I love it. I have four little scrims and one full size. Why is the big size better? I don’t get it.

Think of it this way Mike - when you cut it you assume you still have as much detailing ability but with the full size the drying affect comes into play. As you use it you have more area to work around and by the time you get thru w/ one area another is dry enough to work w/ again. The cut down size just gets wet and doesn’t have time to dry (just like hucks) so you use more of the smaller size instead on one large scrim. With one scrim and my PVA towel for a sill rag in the warmer months and a dirty scrim for a sill rag in the cold temps I’m good to go for the whole job. No need to carry a bunch of towels to keep track of.

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Dave follow this procces and learn how to crack the scrim! it will make things so much easier for you!

Before using a scrim it needs to be washed out, then wrung out to just the right “dampness” content. To achieve this take hold of opposite corners of the scrim, stretch it out and then “spin” it into a rope. Put the two ends together to halve its length, then the same again. The scrim can now be twisted very tightly, leaving no loose fibres within itself to retain water. As you wring it as tightly as you can, water will firstly run, then drip off the scrim. When you can no longer make water drip, you will see that there is still loose water rising to the surface of the scrim when you really twist hard. Holding the scrim tightly to prevent the surface water retreating back into the fabric, “throw” the water off by bringing the scrim down sharply towards the ground, then stopping dead. You will see water being shaken off the scrim onto the ground. You will create a sizeable puddle from what you had thought to be a well wrung scrim!

Unravelling the scrim can be difficult after this treatment, and this is why “old school” w/c’s crack them like a whip. One good crack and the scrim will unravel easily. The scrim is now in perfect condition to polish, detail - even clean your glasses

what you do is once you have rung out the scrim dont unravel it hold it in one corner and let the other end fall and crack it to the ground like a whip you will hear a crack as you do this! repeat this with the opposite corners
spin it in your hand as before and crack again your scrim is now ready to use!

All the best james.

Even though, James is encouraging to use it DAMP not dry so looking for dryness is moot ! Try it damp Yawl, and just like James has said it works the best that way !

Personally I’ll use a cut down down scrim for 3 or 4 days before I’ll wash it ! Rinsing it out before you wash it brings it back up to a ability to preform sweetly.

Dange-Ster

Say James Have you ever dried your scrim in a dryer !

Didn’t you see me snapping it in my Video ?

Dave

P.S. I check out the video and I didn’t snap it, but I do snap it after I ring it and like you said more water comes off !

no must have missed that bit lol

How is a scrim different from a chamois? When I started, I started using a chamois in the

same manner that is being described here. Is there a advantage to the scrim in comparison to the chamois?

OH man, I used a chamois for years and it really works better then the hucks but their fussy and they would break apart fast from the TSP I used. The scrim is way better then the Cham and as it gets older it gets better and it last longer, also it isn’t fussy and is easy to maintain !

Dr. Dange

P.S.

Just loving your Avatar Josh…

Yeah I remember the cham being a picky tool. I found myself cleaning it constantly. When it was clean and the right amount of moisture it was perfect. Perhaps ill give the ol’ scrim a shot…

The subject of damp or dry scrim has been debated over the years on British forums. From what I’ve seen there it’s not moot. Some claim it’s better damp and some say dry. I personally have never had issues w/ a dry scrim so there is no need to go thru a bunch of steps to get the scrim “just so” to use it. A dry scrim is ready to go and keeping full size means I don’t have to fuss w/ it. No need to over complicate things that already work.

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Thanks Dange. The photo is from my hotel balcony at the grand canyon last month. It was beautiful there.

Dange, What do you use to carry the sea sponge around the job? Do you keep it in the soap bucket or what? I want to start using it but need to know a good way to carry it around the house.
Thanks