Pricing restaurants

So I’m not quite sure where restaurants should fit in on pricing. Should I be pricing them like store fronts, commercial or closer to resi? So I’m going to do this again to see if you guys can help me tweak my pricing. I just bid this and haven’t heard back yet. There are 44 panes of glass. This includes the doors. I bid it at outside monthly for $100. In and out quarterly for $170. Again I feel this is high. So I’m just curious what everyone else would price it at?

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That’s a good price 1x a month
I think there is wiggle room also. It’s all hand reachable which is nice depending how you work …outsides will take you no more than 1 1/2 hours

Also you can wfp that saves you time on detailing
Nice account hope you get it !!
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Interesting. I figured in [B]and[/B] out for 1 1/2 hrs.

No squeegee changes, no pole work, no ladder work, etc…

Either way, I agree… nice monthly account. Good luck. :slight_smile:

I price them like storefronts. Mainly because you can clean them more often.

Humm, those look like walk up windows (no pole needed). In my area, I’d probably bid it in/out at $80-90 ($2 * 44) but then again I’d try to get them either weekly or every 2 weeks. If it’s a place where there’s a lot of kids, I might do $100 in/out. If they have multiple locations, then I’d be happy at $75-80.

I might be low compared to others, but this would probably take me 45-60 minutes depending on fingerprints and sauce. For storefront, $80/hr isn’t bad.

My only advice is be careful getting weekly restaurant cleans. If you get too many, it’s a butt kicker.

Definetly doable in/out in an 1 1/2 . I should of just said it that way

Btw I’m an idiot for saying an hour an a half on those outsides I would fire my guy if it took him that long .
Didn’t really think before I spoke

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Those windows are pretty tall, I’m not sure I can reach them without at least standing on my bucket or a step ladder.

Sure got that right !!!

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Large windows, although no mullions and looks like no need for ladder work. Maybe a tad bit of a stretch to the tops but a step stool would solve that if needed. Can’t tell what access is like on the inside if tables and such against the windows slow you down. 44 x $2.25 ea. = $99.00. I would probably lean more towards 44 x $3 ea. = $132; double that for in/out (88 surfaces) @ $264 and hope indoor window access isn’t an issue and splattered food, etc., for smooth sailing through the job.

Clint just pole the top, one horizontal pull with a 24" then hand do the rest of the glass or wagtail/0 degree the whole pane , no ladder needed.

If your short like me these techniques help. I hate breaking out a ladder for something just out of reach.

Do you actually land storefront jobs at those rates? $264 for that restaurant would be great, but around here that is about 3X what I can get. I would have to be at about $75-95 in & out to get a restaurant like that, whether it was weekly, bi-weekly or monthly. It should not take more than 90 minutes to clean that, probably more like 75 minutes at most.

I tend to carry my bucket with me and just stand on the edges of that when I need just a little extra reach, it doesn’t take much longer and I’m carrying it with my anyways. I’m not the fastest with a pole, That’s something I need to work on.

I mostly do residential but do pick up a few commercial. Just did 32 windows, outside only, yesterday for $86 on a storefront. Tall windows and needed paint scraping for initial clean. Since it will vary as a monthly/bi-monthly gig I didn’t charge extra for the scraping which slowed me down and needed to do nose to glass. Future cleanings will be all pole work, depending on how it goes and if they decide on insides too I would probably do 10% off.

Not sure standing on a bucket is OSHA approved. :-/

So this will be my first restaurant that isn’t a normal store front. So I’m not sure how to estimate speed but I was thinking it would take me closer to two hours but I may be way off on that. So are you think 90 min in and out? I always hate the waiting to hear back once you give a bid. I spend the whole time thinking I’m high on my price. But I had one the other day I was about to call the lady and tell her I’d drop the price $50 and she called and gave me the job.

Gary do you do a lot of route work ???

Here is my thing with route work . If your a route guy ,an building routes you have to keep your prices somewhat reasonable so you keep the account, an or get the account. You want to be able to land accounts in, an around all the other stuff you do, and you don’t want to lose stuff so someone else can come in an get it then they will try an take your other stuff. I have accounts I do that are way off the beatin path so I charge way higher for them , But in and around my area I keep my storefront pricing reasonable
so I undersand your a resi guy an when you do get a storefront you charge what you would get for resi I would too if I was in your model.
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one horizontal pull across the top is way faster then balancing on a bucket rim.

But everyone has there system.

I treat restaurant work pretty much like storefront, except I price it a little bit higher. My 90 minute guess is for in & out, but all I’ve seen is two photos, so maybe I’m off. I just don’t think it would take quite that long unless there is an unusual amount of greasy fingerprints. We do McDonald’s and Wendy’s in & out in 50-60 minutes for one man.

I’ve done the ‘standing on the bucket’ trick, but I was younger and I healed faster back then so I didn’t worry much about doing risky things. I never fell, but I worry about that stuff more these days, plus I would be really upset if I caught my employee doing that. Grabbing a short pole to get the top as Steve suggested is much safer and faster too.

Same here Tony, I think things through these days. The mending time for the body is not as fast as it use to be, HaHa.

Safety and efficiency is the goal.

Im betting those are hand reachable . When you rasie your hand up high over your head you still have 10’ with the strip washer that you can go . even if you have to use a stick it wont add much more time to the job. do it like Steve says . sometimes I will wet everything in then grab the end of the strip washer, an wet were I couldn’t reach.I would do the same with squeegee, but that’s just on a single window or two. If that doesn’t get it I just use a stick . Forget the bucket or step ladder for something like this that is just adding more time to the job. JMO