Good Day To you Mr. Winder
In response to your question…
[COLOR=“red”]#1 -[/COLOR] To tie 2 separate ladders together is something I would not even think of doing, unless I was stuck in a hole that had “lions and tigers and bears in there” with me.
Would anyone here consider doing this at all ? This ladder application is something that can cause a business major liability even if you have insurance because the insurance would not cover you under these circumstances !
It can easily fail and end a persons life or cause them to be served to their family as a Veggie ! A person in a vegetable state can last many years in a hospice and your children who are young can still be coming to visit you when they enter adulthood !
Not only being dead or a veggie, but a quad or paraplegic !
Also they are putting the property owner at risk for liability !
Mr. Winder would you want your workers to tie two ladders together to clean someones home, or a commercial account?
This is a given, anyone thinking differently needs to re-adjust their thought pattern in the practice of ladder work !
[COLOR=“red”]#2 -[/COLOR] Next the taller ladder is there, then that means that one just like it could of been there, if not why not ?
Because they are independent contractor installing this phone stuff and sometimes independent contractor do things things like this because they are cutting corners, because they aren’t supplied with all the right tools, and they’re trying to earn revenue at its highest percentage…
One point for those here on the forum who sub-contract, be sure your subcontractor know their job and are properly equipped and trained to go and do your job. If they aren’t and do something like this your insurance will negate your policy and you will be holding the cat in the bag ! Or your customer will not have you back…This is a given !
Also those who you hired as subs may die or be seriously injured and if you knew what they were doing and didn’t correct them or remove them from the job or jobs it will cost them their lives and limb. How would you feel about that !
There is no reason they could not of had a different and proper ladder there to do what they are doing, this only show they are WRECK-LESS AND DANGEROUS ! And for anyone to think differently or not see the major mistake here needs to re-adjust their though process !
[COLOR=“red”]#3 -[/COLOR] If I were on the roof doing this kind of ladder work I would surely have the right ladders…Also in this situation the base needs to be secured or have a co-worker at the base holding it. Also here in this situation the top needs to be secured so it won’t slide,THAT’S AN OSHA STANDARD, and if osha saw this they all would of (property owner,business owner ,and all the workers) been given a fine !
The reason why these guys don’t in my understanding is they are independent contractor and to utilize a man to hold the ladder makes that manpower not in the building process to get the job done.
Now mind you not all independents will work like this ,I was once independent and I never did this nor took risks like this (being a “SON OF ETTORE”) ! Be sure you hire independents who are professional and qualified and safety concise ! Also you need to go out to the job periodically to be sure they aren’t skipping windows or that they aren’t working unsafely, this should be STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE ! If it is not, why not ?
[COLOR=“red”]#4 -[/COLOR] Yes they should be tied off to the top of the roof above the ladders here, in this situation ! We are talking about safety here and the lives of human beings, Fathers, Husbands, Brothers, Sons, Friends, Employees, Neighbors…
They are working 6’ from the edge of the roof on two ladders tied together by a rope, at the top of a 10 story building in a metropolitan city in the downtown core…If they were to have an accident and all their equipment and their ladders and themselves were to go over the edge they would land on the people walking on the street below,just coming and going doing their everyday lives not expecting to be smothered and killed by unsafe worker and unsafe working procedures !
On the street right below them there is a restaurant with tables and chairs on the street right below where these guy are dangerously working ! I’ve cleaned the building across the street for 30 years and I’m on the 12th floors taking these picture. I know this place and what is going on there. Life is in big way moving about down on the street !
When ever I’m cleaning the outside windows of the building that I’m cleaning here, my tools are tied off to me so if I drop one it won’t fall to the ground and maybe kill or injure a, Mother, Father, Son, Daughter, Brother, Sister, Friend !!!
My purpose with thread is to show how people can work dangerously and foolishly, which at times anyone can do. We need to think things through. My purpose here was to not write a long diatribe, but I’ve been ask a question so I answered it with a very simple answer that should be a given…Buuuuuuuut… !
So Mr. Winder iif I were to answer the question in only one sentence instead of a long discourse…
[COLOR=“red”] What other way would you do it Dange?[/COLOR]
[COLOR=“navy”][SIZE=“3”]I would work SAFELY, and not dangerously risking mine and other peoples lives ![/SIZE][/COLOR]
DANGEROUS [SIZE=“7”]COLOR=“red”[/COLOR][/SIZE]