I never said you called me a moron. Its just how you treat people when they ask for some help.
I agree, I have done that. I have only just realized it, sadly 
Just fun, and an opportunity to bring both of our efforts more attention.
I think I used the word “fun” actually, when suggesting it.
But it’s your call. I know you’re a busy guy (for real).
Kevin, this would not be for fun. You have something to gain,
I don’t.
People may roll their eyes at my comments, but results are
results. I have had too much success doing this to see this
as fun.
For me it truly needs to be more than winning a worthless
crown. If we can figure out a way in which this would
truly help someone’s business, I’m in.
I would like it to be a lot bigger than Paul vs Kevin
My business could use a lot of help!
Okay, your call.
I guess I figured you would have a chance to highlight your services and flex some expertise, earn some more fans, and educate some window cleaner folk about what you can do to help them, but I guess it is kinda intimidating in the big picture - and a lot like hard work - and not so much “fun”.
Your call. Fair enough. I can see that.
Intimidating? I am not sure I follow.
Intimidating is when someone spends $50,000- $100.000
to send out an ad I am 100% responsible for.
That gets the heart pumping
This thing we’re talking about here would take me 30 min
and risk nothing… but reward nothing.
I do not need to ‘showcase’ my work. My work is out
there to be found. (results intact)
I think you may be under the impression that this poll
means you are thought of as the better marketer.
Let’s put what we have done side by side [U]right now[/U].
Results included (because results is what counts)
Do all those people think you are the better marketer
or a nicer guy?
I got a few votes and feel no need what-so-ever to
prove anything.
I just want to help people make money and stop with
this petty stuff… or maybe I am just a coward.
What if be some miracle my ads stomp yours. Then
where are you at? Where am I at… right where I
am now.
I’ll pass unless we can do something special
My humble opinion is that Paul is a better copywriter, and Kevin (still a great copywriter) is better at design.
I would love to see an ad that Paul wrote and Kevin did the graphics for and designed!
Having never seen anything Paul has done I have no frame of reference. I love everything about Kevin’s marketing and that’s based on the old principle of seeing is believing.
Kevin is a bazillion times better at design them I am.
I do envy that
I’ve wanted to see you guys collaborate on a marketing piece for a long time, not sure how that would work out, but I think it would be cool to see.
I envy his design skills too.
Results are believing my friend. I can create 20 ads tonight to show
you if and it would mean nothing out in the world.
They must work (not saying Kevin’s don’t)
Seeing is indeed not believing unless you are seeing results.
I agree results are important. I know of results from Kevin’s work I hadn’t heard anything of your results. Not saying they aren’t there just that I have no knowledge of them.
p.s. In my ebook I showed the postcards I created that
had more than $300,000 in sales. I know it’s not much, but it
is what it is.
Huh? you do know I did ALL Chris’s ads for a year … don’t you?
I thought everyone knew. My fault for not realizing the world
does not revolve around me.
Nope, didn’t know. Figured Chris did his own stuff.
I have $100 USD on Paul.(CFP)
Paul tells it how it is. he does not beat around the bush like others i know on this forum and in real life too.
btw, I did vote for him too.
How about make it a threesome. Do a website. Doug SEO, Paul copywrite, Kevin Design. Do a website on selling “Ice cubes”!
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now that is something i would NOT like to see
